Submitted 2 weeks ago by airrow@hilariouschaos.com to memes@hilariouschaos.com
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In fairness, there wasn’t a big loss of the vaccinated either (seems to be smaller, but still a lot of people)… but there was a successful looting of the poor and enrichment of elites
It’s nice that you didn’t die from it, but many did and the hospitals were overrun. The cool thing about science is that it doesn’t care about political stances
there are many people who believe this was simply like the flu, since flu cases “disappeared” during this time: scientificamerican.com/…/flu-has-disappeared-worl…
(flu does kill some people)
Is there any possibility for us to bridge the gap in opinions and come to any agreement then, that yes some people died but it was not as bad as predicted? Originally I read redditors predicting hundreds of millions of deaths… nothing like that panned out. Really the “minimalist” side doubts there were many deaths at all.
Not sure how progress on the topic can be made but anecdotally vaccinating or not seemed like a “nothingburger” and few people died either vaccinated or not
You have a lot of misunderstandings here. The things people did to combat COVID, especially the social distancing and mask wearing, were even more effective against the flu.
And though people do due of the flu, COVID dwarfed those deaths. Here’s a chart showing flu deaths and COVID deaths for the first couple years.
It’s nice that you didn’t die from it
Is it really, though?
Yes, it is. A person doesn’t deserve to die just because they have a different viewpoint on something. Even in a leopards-ate-my-face situation
It's sad seeing the redditors pretending reality matches with their models.
But I guess they need to keep thinking that or the way they've treated people who disagree with them will have turned out to be absolutely terrible and they might have to apologize for how they acted instead of just apologizing for what other people did.
it’s ok, most people seem to have gone “back to normal” and de facto deny their models; in fairness I dunno if I can “disprove” their models, but they don’t extend the same fairness in realizing they fail to prove their models as well
Ironically, I've also come around to the idea that the worst predictions about the vax turned out to be wrong too.
We know it was by definition an untested experimental vaccine (since that was the point of project warp speed) and while there's strong circumstantial evidence that some fatalities and injuries occurred due to the vaccine, it isn't the apocalyptic worst case scenario many people feared, much in the same way covid turned out not to be the apocalyptic worst case scenario most people feared either.
Now that doesn't mean that there were no measurable consequences to anything -- for example the stagflation I warned about in early 2020 ended up coming exactly as I said and everyone can see that -- it actually is a "bring out yer dead" scenario with tent cities popping up around the world in cities that typically never had them. We also saw many apocalypse scenarios with respect to childhood development and education.
Dasus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
A lot of people were severely ill, a lot of people died and the hospitals were overwhelmed.
I honestly don’t have the words to express my sincere disgust with antiscience antivaxx nuts who still always pretend they actually understand any of the science, because they don’t understand how ridiculous it is when they claim that despite their utter lack of understanding on even the basics of the science.
airrow@hilariouschaos.com 2 weeks ago
can we come to agreement that the artificially reduced supply of medical resources via regulation combined with the artificially induced panic, is more to blame here than actual covid risk?
AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No, we for sure cannot. The number one cause was lack of staff - we ended up having nurses tend to several patients each instead of two or three. There were people who were really sick and the were simply not enough beds for them.
Dasus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Definitely not, you whacko.