Lol let’s stop people from using this open source design
If anything this might increase self-reliance
US government reportedly ponders crimping China's use of RISC-V
Submitted 6 months ago by thehatfox@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/24/us_commerce_china_risc_v_investigation/
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witty_username@feddit.nl 6 months ago
istanbullu@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
The US government is a spoiled child that is throwing a temper tantrum over the success of others.
demonsword@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Nah, it’s a faliling empire. And there has never been an empire that fell before on humanity’s history that had a peaceful sunset
TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 6 months ago
USSR? It almost came to blows with a couple hardcore commie holdouts, but at the end of the day they just signed the death certificate of the USSR without much incident.
iopq@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Take a guess, is the US share of world GDP decreasing or increasing over time or roughly staying the same?
MonkderDritte@feddit.de 6 months ago
It’s ruled by spoiled childs.
bruhduh@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Always has been
sudoku@programming.dev 6 months ago
Doesn’t seem there is anything that they can do lol
anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
The spec is open source, particular implementation are typically under patent/copyright protection.
Not that they can be enforced effectively, unless the chips are exported into the US.sudoku@programming.dev 6 months ago
Isn’t the whole point that china wants to implement it themselves so they would know if it’s secure (i.e. has no western backdoors and has chinese backdoors)?
pastermil@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
What are they gonna do next, ban Linux?
rc_buggy@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
So the US government wants to curtail the use of an open source architecture that is published by a Swiss organization which isn’t controlled by any government.
Talk about tilting at windmills. What the fuck could they possibly do? Sanction RISC-V International? ONO!
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 6 months ago
How could this ever even work? Isn’t the cat out of the bag. China will make chips if it wants to… I don’t see how you could stop them.
HelloHotel@lemmy.world 6 months ago
My home country is eating away at itself. 🫤 Every day I hear news of how the US is chasing the clouds, attacking the “illusive newfound chinese power”. The US is acting like the king from double king. Im trapped, So far not able to convince whom Im living with to move. (We have family here, were both finantially dependant on the government, they dont see what Im seeing, cant really change their mind, not safe to try)
Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 6 months ago
The US is trying to prevent both China and Russia from:
- Spewing propaganda to its citizens by posing as citizens or manipulating social media algorithms
- Taking advantage of the work it and other countries have done to advance computing
- Stealing designs and advancing them without giving back
- Stealing designs and using state money to undercut the competition’s pricing
- Buying up the world while refusing to let the world buy any of China
- Expanding their borders by violence
Among many many other things. I think this RISC-V thing will go no where but I get why they’re looking at it.
HelloHotel@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I hope not, its extralegal. I understand what they are trying to do and still beleave they are okay with personally doing all that stuff but upset when anyone else tries. If these 3 countries keep this up, we will likely have multiple fallen empires on the world stage.
hark@lemmy.world 6 months ago
What’s wrong, America, can’t take the competition?
trolololol@lemmy.world 6 months ago
No! Something something bootstraps should not work for foreign countries!
hanrahan@slrpnk.net 6 months ago
By make it harder do they mean put a gun to ASMLs head to not sell them the hadware needed to make them ? ASML is a Dutch company, spun out of Phillips from memory.
autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] 6 months ago
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The United States Department of Commerce is reportedly considering lawmakers’ calls to make it harder for China to use the RISC-V instruction set architecture (ISA).
In late 2023, members of the House Select Committee on the Strategic Competition Between the United States and the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) expressed concern that the Uncle Sam’s many efforts to make it hard for advanced chips to reach China are being undermined by RISC-V.
“While the benefits of open source collaboration on RISC-V promise to be significant, it can only be realized when contributors are working with the sole aim of improving the technology, and not aiding the geopolitical interests of the PRC,” the representatives wrote in a November 2023 letter that called for creation of a “robust ecosystem for open source collaboration among the US and our allies while ensuring the PRC is unable to benefit from that work.”
That’s code for “Banning sales of chips to China won’t work if Beijing can build its own using RISC-V.” The Committee members therefore called on US commerce secretary Gina Raimondo to consider what might be done about RISC-V.
RISC-V International CEO Calista Redmond defended open source collaboration, on grounds that it advances the development technology and leads to the creation of very useful things like USB and Ethernet, and pointed out that her own org is a mere publisher of a standard.
China has made it plain that it wants more of this sort of thing, by approving only processors it can control to some extent – because their architectures allow customization – and issuing its own bans on the import of US tech.
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NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 6 months ago
United States Department of Commerce is reportedly considering
They are trying to invoke Streisand? 😇
Korkki@lemmy.world 6 months ago
higgsboson@dubvee.org 6 months ago
A group of “cold war boomers” also designed the RISC chips in question.
wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
RISC-V is pretty recent, the project started in 2010. It’s a lot more likely that it was GenX professors and millenial grad students.