Are you also able to stutter in sign languages?

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• RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Maybe if you sign with Parkinsons…

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  • Atin@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That was my first thought too

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  • spittingimage@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I was thinking maybe some kind of hand/arm injury, but Parkinsons makes more sense.

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• Apytele@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I suspect they do but don’t know for sure. The reasons I would think they do are because they conceptualize other things almost eerily similarly when you account for the sensory difference. I’ve also seen some fascinating clinical examples (some of them actually from discussing the patients’ speech qualities with the interpreter since that’s part of my assessment).

  One of the coolest things I ever saw was a patient who signed ASL as a first language and couldn’t write well. So where a hearing person might sound a word out even just silently feeling your lips move, they were fingerspelling off to the side to “feel out” how the words were spelled! It might seem really dumb of me but it really blew my mind to think about at the time.

  I forget where I read about this one, but deaf schizophrenics tend to visually hallucinate disembodied signing hands or moving lips, instead of hallucinating auditory voices.

  In another case I saw the patient had a lot of weird, wide jerky arm movements that could be really alarming to an unexpecting passerby. We knew the patient was deaf and signed, but we also weren’t certain it was ASL (long story). The interpreter then told us that whether or not the patient was typically able to speak ASL, they were not doing so at that time. I don’t recall if or how they would have checked for any of the other sign languages). But it turned out when they cleared up that they did in fact speak ASL, which means that was sign-salad! Word-salad is a classic symptom of psychosis and is exactly what it sounds like- seemingly random words and syllables just all mashed in together. AND IT HAPPENS IN SIGN LANGUAGE TOO BECAUSE IT’S ALSO A LANGUAGE AND THAT’S FASCINATING!

  Anyway I really should go to sleep I work tonight!

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  • Blyfh@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Thanks for telling these anecdotes! Sign languages intrigue me, as their modality is so different. But when you actually look at it closer, you see how they’re not really all that different to phonetic languages. It’s mostly the interface that’s different. The concept behind it is the same.

    My guess was that teaching a stuttering person a sign language could be a possible solution to overcome that psychological barrier since the way you produce communication is fundamentally different. If the subconscious can’t figure out how to stutter with hands, might it drop it when signing? Anyways, I do think that stuttering for native signers exists, as it seems only natural. I don’t think that phenomena is bound to articulatory-auditory languages. But maybe as a nonnative this might not be so intuitive…

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• BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  ✌️🖕🖕🖕👊 means nnnnno

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• sznowicki@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Stuttering is a failure connection between brain, lungs and mouth. Has nothing to do with hands so no, sign language people don’t stutter.

  Source: I stutter since 4yo and spent a lot of time with other stuttering people helping them.

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  • azulon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I imagine that a failure of connection between brain and hands is possible though. We wouldn’t call it “stutter” normally (it would probably surface as some kind of tremors), but effectively it would be a sign language alternative to stuttering.

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• Lath@kbin.earth ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If it's psychological, it might happen sort of. We are quite prone to subconscious suggestions, so someone in a susceptible state of mind could perhaps convince themselves to unintentionally create such a type of stutter.

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• some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Reminded me of the podcast Terrible, Thanks for Asking called T-T-T-Today, Junior/. I couldn’t find it on the official site cause it’s not very well designed for search. I’m assuming my link will give the same content I originally heard. It was pretty heartbreaking.

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• Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  My brother had a stutter. It’s a bit psychological and a bit just technique. A lot of people can learn to drop their stutter with physical therapy and speech training, like my brother did. I doubt a stutter could even manifest in sign language with the exception of other issues that cause involuntary hand movement (like tourettes or other disorders that come with tics or muscle spasms).

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  • Blyfh@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Oh I see. Thanks for the insight! So that means no stuttering.

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