I think they brought her back in an attempt to backpedal the absolute fucking disaster that was season 1. I honestly enjoy Discovery as sci-fi, but when I rewatch Season 1 I can’t shake the feeling they took another IPs pilot and stretched Star Trek over it like a horrible skinsuit.
Comment on What are the biggest red flags when talking with a Trek "fan"?
buckykat@hexbear.net 4 weeks agoDiscovery bringing Georgiou back in season 2 as a Section 31 agent felt to me like the show was doing this, and is what put me off that show specifically. I really like the majority of modern Trek shows, and even like 2 out of 3 of the Kelvin timeline movies.
ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 4 weeks ago
buckykat@hexbear.net 4 weeks ago
It had exactly the opposite effect for me. I greatly disliked season 1 of Discovery but thought they wrapped it up well enough at the end of the season that they could move on. Georgiou showing back up in season 2 read to me as them having learned absolutely nothing and doubling down on the disaster rather than backpedaling from it.
UlyssesT@hexbear.net 4 weeks ago
I was generous, even patient, with Strange New Worlds and enjoyed it for the most part, if only because it was not Discovery and its tiresome contrarian “what if evil people… adorable scamps? What if everyone is kind of an asshole? What if moral ambiguity makes the audience feel very very smart while justifying whatever the writers want to show without feeling bad about it?”
buckykat@hexbear.net 4 weeks ago
I like Strange New Worlds. Very much hoping they complicate the Gorn cliffhanger they left the last season off with though.
UlyssesT@hexbear.net 4 weeks ago
It was weird explaining to my wife (who only watched SNW and only knew about TOS from secondhand sources) that Kirk would totally strike a truce with the Gorn… and that’s why some of them were just chilling, having a nice wedding in Lower Decks that Rutherford rudely interrupted.
buckykat@hexbear.net 4 weeks ago
Your wife has watched 3/4 of the good modern Trek series and should watch Prodigy. (and the TNG era Treks)
ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 4 weeks ago
Yo, if you don’t mind a bit of the Clone Wars getting in your Trek, Prodigy is a fantastic watch, Admiral Janeway is in the running for my favorite Star Fleet officer.
ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 4 weeks ago
Georgiou eventually turned on her S31 superiors, joined the Discovery crew, and tried to make the Mirror Universe better when the Guardian (sort of) gave her the opportunity.
UlyssesT@hexbear.net 4 weeks ago
Space Hitler felt kind of bad about some things and made some friends and promises to make the next Reich a little nicer. sus
ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 4 weeks ago
So what about any of that screams “the Terran Empire did nothing wrong” to you? Or would you rather keep deflecting?
UlyssesT@hexbear.net 4 weeks ago
I wasn’t talking about you in particular, nor was I making the connection to that character when I was talking about red flags until you forcibly made it for me.
Read again. I was talking about people posting sometimes hours-long screeds in public zone chat channels in an online game about how badly they want to exterminate undesirables, that also happen to almost universally identify with the Terran Empire or Section 31 between such rants.
Because you went off into the weeds to talk about a specific character, I did happen to roll my eyes at “the mass murdering dictator is sorry and that somehow means she is okay now” argument, though it was a different topic and wasn’t even connected to what I was saying about toxic fans (and the actual topic brought up in this thread).
Spare me the catty reddit-logo smugness. It’s toxic nonsense.