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You’d think with healthier, easier to get ingredients would be cheaper than producing regular non vegan items.

Where do you get the idea the ingredients would be healthier or cheaper? Have you ever read the ingredient list of a typical vegan food item? They are some of the highest processed foods the industry can provide, with long lists of chemical additives to make a vegan food item resemble … food. In the US, they even use food colorings for that stuff that are illegal for ages in other parts of the world.

Take that vegan burger, for example. It typically starts with TVP (Textured Vegetable Protein), already highly processed stuff made from soy beans, wheat, or peas. And it gets downhill from there. Watch this guy and learn: www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ND4lUi-i2s - if you cannot make sense of his German, just skip to 4:36 where he shows what kind of chemicals one needs to make a “vegan burger patty”.

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hendrik@palaver.p3x.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Though red meat isn't healty either. Same for salted meat. I'm not sure how it compares to highly processed food. You might be better off with that...

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- chemicalprophet@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I eat for happiness. You have to die of something and I’m going to die of happiness.
  
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- Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Indeed. If you want to live vegan, do so, and avoid “vegan meat substitutes” of all kinds.
  
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DarthFrodo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
What makes you think that processing food through an animal is healthier than through a factory?

You have to compare the actual nutrients contained in the product to draw any conclusion about health effects, and the macros are fairly similar for the plant-based versions compared to a given meat product.

The average person (in developed countries) eats significantly more meat than the recommended upper limit by nutrition organizations.

If you just go by the naturalistic argument, you’d conclude that processed drinking water is worse than untreated water, and that vaccines are worse than “perfectly natural” diseases. It’s a common logical fallacy.

yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-nature

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BestBouclettes@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
You’re right for processed veggie stuff, but OP’s statement also works for tofu, seitan or tempeh. It’s usually way more expensive per kg than meat, be it chicken or beef.

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