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Kryptenx@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yup too many people worry about what happens after AI gains sentience. When we need to worry about what happens before.

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  • AeroLemming@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s because what happens post-singularity is dramatic and flashy, but what’s happening now is depressing and boring. AI is being used and will continue to be used to oppress people and extract as much value from them as possible, but post-singularity AI might launch all the nukes!

    In all likelihood, post-singularity AI will probably just do what current AI does to screw people over, but even better.

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    • gandalf_der_12te@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I have the vision that AI will eventually replace all the CEOs, being even more efficient than them at whatever their job is. This means even more exploitation of workers, hoarding of wealth, and putting profits above all else. The true nightmare. I think that AI will eventually turn all corporations into pure evil, and turn all humans against AI and therefore corporations. That will result in a civil war - humans vs machines. Eventually, humans will be able to save themselves, but only by putting capitalism and the system of ever rising profits to the grave for good.

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      • AeroLemming@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I think you’re giving humans too much credit. If our future ends up going down that path, the people raking in profits will never give up their power and the government won’t force them.

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  • Angry_Autist@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Almost no movies have been put out that shows the threat of AI used to socially manipulate. That is the real threat right there.

    Bots can radicalize people into thinking they have a deep, intimate friend when it is just an LLM trained to slowly turn them into white nationalists.

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    • Sea_Foam_Green@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I was chatting with a big tidy goth girl, and before I knew it, I was selling copies of my graphic novelization of Mein Kampf in the back of a pickup truck in the parking lot of Hobby Lobby

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      • Angry_Autist@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        As if every Hobby Lobby doesn’t already have a pile of them in the back…

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    • steel_nomad@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Bots can radicalize people into thinking they have a deep, intimate friend when it is just an LLM trained to slowly turn them into white nationalists. crazy blue haired transgender liberals

      FTFY

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• orcrist@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is not AI. You don’t need AI to create a system that does this. All you need to do is link together some customer data with pricing data.

  But I don’t blame you for falling for the scam. People are getting rich by pretending that AI is much more capable than it actually is. In reality, what do we have? We have systems that can generate text that sounds fairly natural but has lots of errors in it. We have systems that can generate pictures that look okay. That’s about it. That’s what AI has given us in the past 2 years. All of the other stuff, all of the formulas and databases and spreadsheets, that’s been around for decades.

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  • Kryptenx@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Taken too literally to this post in a vacuum, yes. Taken with the news that Kroger was thinking about dynamic pricing, don’t delude yourself into thinking LLMs are the extent of what the “AI” (stupid term but let’s discuss ideas and not the words) goals are. The real ultimate goal is to be able to mine the near infinite amount of consumer data available and turn that into increased profits. Dynamic pricing will be a piece of it and I believe this cartoon illustrates a piece of a complex subject in an easy to digest manner.

    You and I both agree that LLMs aren’t shit except for a narrow window of usefulness, mainly a distraction, and the data shows consumers don’t really like “AI”. So why is there still so much cash in “AI”? Maybe you think it’s a market pump, but there is cash in nvda because it’s undeniable GPUs will continue to be utilized in huge numbers for server farms crunching associations. There is cash in the LLM gatekeepers because those firms are large enough and far enough along the path to eventually do what filthy capitalists want with this data. First it was algorithms that prioritized engagement at any cost. Today it is LLMs. And tomorrow it is machine learning on your data and subconscious psychology in order to extract maximum profit possible from you. They’ve milked data-based advertising to the point of diminishing returns and the next step is to exploit us all using the data most make freely available out of convenience so that line continue to go up. I sure hope I’m wrong, but I’m a filthy fucking capitalist and don’t think that’s the case.

    Hope to fuck we instill decent judges across this country in the coming years because honestly our best hope is to outlaw most of these practices by showing that they can’t be free of unintended bias and are therefore inherently not objective enough to be used to set prices, etc. it works in a physical store but how do you prevent dynamic pricing online? Especially with an internet that looks like it will become extremely segmented

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• BestBouclettes@jlai.lu ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That and the systematic replacement of middle management by AI with no regard to human feelings, needs, emotion whatsoever. Pretty much what Amazon is doing to its delivery drivers already.

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  • Angry_Autist@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Middle management already has zero regard for human feelings so at least you won’t have to deal with clashing personalities or vanity bosses anymore.

    I say bring on the AI management and wait till the board members see how effectively ALL C-suites can be replaced by AI.

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  • gandalf_der_12te@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    AI has the potential to improve efficiency. That includes the potential to make all forms of evil more efficient.

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  • nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That and the systematic replacement of middle management by AI with no regard to human feelings, needs, emotion whatsoever.

    So, you’re say that, in general, it’s an improvement? /s

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