Background play of exclusive podcasts for one thing. I suppose that might be possible in a browser but playing media from a media player app instead of a browser is certainly going to be a better experience.
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RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Why does patreon even need to be an app? What value does the app bring that the website can’t deliver?
Tilgare@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
drmoose@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Just offer file downloads. I swear the society is regressing technologically speaking.
TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Every podcast I support on Patreon provides a link that you can plug into your podcatcher to subscribe. I don’t need the Patreon app to listen to the podcast then, just Pocket Casts or whatever I’m using for all my podcasts.
Even the video links are YouTube links.
I don’t doubt that the app makes life easier in some ways, but the website works just fine.
Tilgare@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The main shows definitely that is the case for me as well - but there are also Patreon exclusive audio releases that don’t go out on the rss feed for Morning, Somewhere for instance. I also follow shows with exclusive video releases on Patreon that don’t ever go to YouTube and I still get the benefit of a dedicated media app with background play.
WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
They should just take the route BandCamp takes and tell you to go to the website to make purchases
Tilgare@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
For some reason, some developers get away with it… But that practice is specifically prohibited by Apple. Maybe the exception is for app developers that had a pre-existing deal before the rule went into effect or something, but directing users out of the app and into a web browser will get your app update denied. If Patreon were in a position to make that deal, they probably wouldn’t be catching hell like this from Apple in the first place.
spiderman@ani.social 5 weeks ago
PWA should be the way. As long as the website is mobile responsive, PWA should be preferred in cases like this.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
A functional user experience?
rxin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
It’s because they are unable to develop a website that isn’t crap.
astanix@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
There are a lot of people out there that will not use a website and only use an app for things. I’m willing to bet there’s some users of patron on ios that don’t even know there is a website.
Scrollone@feddit.it 5 weeks ago
OnlyFans doesn’t have an app but they’re still in business. We must educate people about not relying on apps for everything.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
It doesn’t have an app because it can’t, not because it wouldn’t benefit from it.
nadram@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I would argue Patreon cannot have an app on the App Store as it would cause them to mess up their (and the users’) business models… 30% is huge !!! I am baffled by why they would bend to Apple instead of upgrading their website.
yoshisaur@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
definitely. i know so many people from my school who’s iphone home screen is just… pages full of apps. we’re talking 40+ apps on average. they always say it’s weird how i use a website for almost everything, and then they complain about their storage space :/
Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I tend to use whatever has the best user experience. I don’t use a browser for lemmy as an example.
Voltage@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
I use lemmy on browser because lemmy apps seem too confusing to me lol
Mbourgon@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Notifications of new content are nice.
exu@feditown.com 5 weeks ago
There’s this ancient standard called email
Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
There’s also web push. You can send push notifications straight to someone’s browser, no need for a dedicated app anymore. Not sure if patreon has implemented this, but they could if they wanted to.
SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 5 weeks ago
RSS is better suited for this.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Email 🤮
Bad enough I have to use that shit at work, I’m not using it unless I have to.
minyaen@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Unfortunately, I think you hit the nail on the head. Apple knows this too. Also, unfortunate for those Apple-sheep 🙄
kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
Does this mean Patreon too will have two tiers of billing system: standard billing via the Web and slightly higher prices if done in app. I think if one purchases a YouTube Premium membership in app on iOS, it costs more than when done via the site.
faercol@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
Yes, that’s exactly what they’re doing. If you have a Patreon, you must choose between increasing patreon price on Apple specifically compared to Android and Web, or you can keep the price the same, in which case you will earn less from users using iOS in-app purchase