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As a former evangelical Christian, the natural universe we inhabit is magical and exciting and fascinating in a way that it simply isn’t when you believe it was the creation of an all-powerful God as basically a training ground for Heaven or whatever.

There is so much more to learn and understand. It is fucking awesome!

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applebusch@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
As someone raised by Christians I’m glad you made it out too.

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- modifier@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  That is very kind of you to say, and the same to you.
  
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orbitz@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I do agree but if you wanted to make to case for ‘God’ they could have made sure some of their creatures evolved to understand his work, assuming they did it in a logical way. I’m not a person with faith but just try and think a way is possible, though usually trying to understand weird comic and media universe type actions.

We are the way for a universe to understand itself (paraphrased from Sagan). Though his writing is much more interesting than this comment. I just think there’s room for belief if it works for people, but not for the strict literal interpretations that many seem to believe.

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- modifier@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  That Sagan phrase inspired me to adapt a Descartes principle:
  
  Because I am conscious, the universe is conscious.
  
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  - orbitz@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I’m not sure I’ve heard that one, very similar and awesome. I should read some of him, yes I know very famous just something I haven’t got around to doing.
    
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    modifier@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I’m glad you haven’t heard it because from my perspective, the universe thought I had come up with it myself, haha. But I haven’t read Descartes either, so I cannot say for certain.
    
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KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
i think if we’re arguing anything as magic, it’s probably the fact that we’re here, on earth, and that earth is the perfect planet, and that it has plenty of resources for us to exploit, and that we just happen to be intelligent forms of life capable of exploiting such resources.

Who gives a fuck about anything else when the pure and fundamental question of “why us” is literally the only thing you need to keep your going until you die.

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