Comment on Decentralised YouTube alternative Odysee no longer serving ads

rozodru@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• gentooer@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I remember liking the idea of Odysee, but that turned rather quickly

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• OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Thank goodness we have Lemmies ensuring no alternative tech can threaten YouTube. I was worried people might actually be against Odyssey in the comments

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  • rozodru@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    oh please. I’m all for alternatives to youtube, just not ones that are backed by crypto schemes and appeal to and embrace nazi’s.

    But you go ahead and give them your money, I’m sure they’ll appreciate it.

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    • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Just a thing to think about, free speech is always going to appeal to Nazis, just as it should for most other people. Freedom of speech in the American sense where certain speech is not protected (such as screaming fire in a movie theater when there is no fire)

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      • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Sure. And Nazism is a direct threat not protected by freedom of expression.

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      • tabular@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        screaming fire in a movie theater when there is no fire That always reminds me of this first part of this speech on free speech from Christopher Hitchens.

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      • Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        (such as screaming fire in a movie theater when there is no fire)

        This idiom comes from an analogy in a SCOTUS opinion arguing that checks notes it’s a violation of the Espionage Act to distribute flyers that oppose the draft. That case was later partly overturned in Brandenburg v Ohio and the standard is that speech isn’t incitement unless it is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action. To the point that “$SLUR should hang from trees” is probably protected speech (because the lawless action isn’t imminent), but “you guys, grab that $SLUR over there so we can string them up!” probably isn’t.

        So defending free speech inevitably means defending white supremacists and the like because free speech doesn’t actually protect anything if it doesn’t protect upsetting, outrageous, or offensive speech (and likewise, the arbiter of what counts as offensive is not guaranteed to always be on your side). It’s why the ACLU has defended them on more than one occasion. H.L. Mencken put it best.

        “The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one’s time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all.” ― H.L. Mencken

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    • strongarm@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You know that’s exactly what people say about Mastadon and in some cases Lemmy right?

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  • tomsh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    This Lemmy community is actually more pro-mainstream than Reddit and YouTube combined. Thank you for pointing this out. Time to go.

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• Emerald@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Yep. Use FastLBRY, not Odysee

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  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You just made an excellent point without realizing it. #mayflies

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• Blubber28@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Didn’t know about its existence but as they were proclaiming free speech that immediately sets off alarm bells. Sad to see my suspicion is once again correct.

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• starman@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Most of advertisers don’t care.

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