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ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

That was asus applying too much voltage to the x3d skus

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mox@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Where do you think Asus got the specs for that voltage?

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- ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Then why were there essentially no blow ups from other motherboard manufacturers? Tell me if my information on this is wrong, but when there’s only one brand causing issues then they’re the ones to blame for it.
  
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  - mox@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Then why were there essentially no blow ups from other motherboard manufacturers?
    
    I believe there were, including MSI, who also released corrected BIOS versions.
    
    (But even if that was not the case, it could be explained by Asus being the only board maker to use the high end of a voltage range allowed by AMD, or by Asus having a significantly larger market share.)
    
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- frezik@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Not from AMD. From the autogenerated transcript (with minor edits where it messed up the names of things):
  
  amd’s official recommendation [f]or the cut off now is 1.3 volts but the board vendors can still technically set whatever they want so even though the [AGESA] update can lock down and start restricting the voltage the problem is Asus their 1.3 number manifests itself as something like 1.34 volts so it is still on the high side
  
  This was pretty much all on motherboard manufacturers, and ASUS was particularly bad (out scumbaging MSI, good job, guys).
  
  At the start of this Intel mess, it was thought they had a similar issue on their hands and motherboard manufactures just needed to get in line, but it ended up going a lot deeper.
  
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  - mox@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    That doesn’t contradict anything I wrote. Note that it says [AMD’s] cutoff is now 1.3 volts, implying that it wasn’t before this mess began. Note also that the problem was worse on Asus boards because their voltage tolerance was looser than it should be, not because they used a voltage target beyond the specified cutoff.
    
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