Comment on The most popular Chinese keyboard app which is used by more than 450 million monthly users sends every key typed to Tencent in China.

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Simple solution is to block lemmygrad and hexbear in your app. That cuts down quite a few tankies and mainlaind Taiwan shills.

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  • Notorious_handholder@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Imagine being in Taiwan and having full access to information about China and the west and still shilling for China. Those types of people should be looking for a dominatrix, not a political philosophy…

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    • evilgiraffe666@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think they might be using “mainland Taiwan” as a way of saying China - Taiwan is an island which China thinks is “theirs” for some reason.

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      • miserablegit@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Tbf, it was theirs - until it wasn’t. At this point, it is a bit like the British were insisting that the US was theirs.

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      • SlopppyEngineer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        “Yes, but history…” they will say.

        And in history China used to be the opium export market of the Brits so by historic rules it has to be that again. I guess they’ll say “but that’s different”.

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      • niceboysummer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It is literally official US policy that Taiwan is an island that is a part of China.

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    • RoundSparrow@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Imagine being in Taiwan and having full access to information about China and the west and still shilling for China. Those types of people should be looking for a dominatrix, not a political philosophy…

      That’s kind of the history of humanity regarding religion. To some degree when the religious prophets were alive it make sense, but hundreds of years later it’s a story book (or oral tradition) and people still strive for the authority.

      We haven’t really had that many teachers like Carl Sagan who describe the history and our favoring of authority - inability to question them. It’s pretty weird, as they often aren’t attractive or good speakers, but you see people just accept almost anything they say. I mean in the USA I witnessed so many people who would trust Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones kind of blindly, and there is some mechanism at play that humanity in total seems to keep engaging.

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  • Hype@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Been using lemmy for a few days and I am already feeling the need to do just that.

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  • youthinkyouknowme@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    A must have on apps to be able to block/filter instances

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  • PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    mainland Taiwan

    You must mean West Taiwan. Sadly they refuse to acknowledge the authority of Taiwans government.

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• gmtom@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I mean, ill always say that China is worse than the US. But you can find plenty of examples of the US doing awful things to its people too.

  Like the MOVE bombing en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing

  or The Tusla Massacre that involved law enforcement bombing black neighbourhoods en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre

  Or any of the countless of times copes perpetrated mass violence against black people during the civil war era and cracked down harshly on protests.

  Or when the did the same to anti-war protestors during the vietnam war.

  Or the numerous times they experimented on their own citezens such as MK ultra, The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment, or any of the dozens upon dozens of radiation experimentation, like when almost 1000 pregnant mothers were injected with radioactive iron, causing many miscarriages and cancers(and thats not the only time they injected pregnant mothers with radioctive material to see if it fucked up the baby), or when inserting radium rods up the nostrils of school children and then observing how their health declined, or when they dosed hundreds of inuit with radioactive iodine to see its affects on the thyroid.

  Like I dont think this makes China’s atrocities any more excusable, but the reverse is true to. The US really isnt much better than China.

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  • Stahlreck@feddit.ch ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The US really isnt much better than China.

    The world ain’t just good or bad and there’s various degrees of “bad”. The fact that many US people can even talk about this stuff makes them already just ever so slightly better for many outsiders. This is how it is, neither country is “good” but they align more with western ideals than an authoritarian state which for many of us is bad by default…which it is of course. :)

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  • SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Shills gonna shill

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    • June@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I tend to lean into accepting that ‘the US government has done some pretty horrific shit too’ camp, but I don’t do it as a way to shill for China, because fuck that authoritarian place. But it is dumb not to recognize massacres like Kent State, Tulsa, or the systematic genocides of First Nations peoples.

      Tiananmen Square really isn’t the best example to use as an example of how China isn’t like the US. There’s plenty of much more insidious dystopian shit happening in China every day to use than that.

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      • SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        this article isn’t about the US. I believe there is a reason so many in so many threads like that do what you’re doing and worse. THE TOPIC IS NOT THE US, STOP TRYING TO MAKE IT THAT WAY

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      • gmtom@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah exactly my point.

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    • gmtom@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Do you even know what the word shill means?

      Like wtf do you think I’m trying to sell?

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      • SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        it seems you’re selling that idea that China = USA as to minimize bad actions by China.

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  • TheHighRoad@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    As bad as those incidents were, they weren’t exactly government sanctioned. Police sanctioned, sure, and the government should do more to reign that shit in, but comparing them to Tiennamen is disingenuous at best.

    The Chinese government hates letting its citizens have a voice.

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    • gmtom@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I gave plenty of other examples that were government sanctioned, and the treatment of black people during civil rights was government sanctioned. And going back further you have slavery and the genocide of natives that were government sanctioned. Ofc its not a 1:1 parallel with tiennamen.

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  • HellAwaits@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    How much in Nike shoes is Winnie the Pooh paying you?

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    • gmtom@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Oh no, you insulted a genocidal dictator that I would fucking celebrate like it was fucking mardi gras if he was hung by his own intestines. However will I recover from this devastation.

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• reverendsteveii@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  No one is saying Google massacred protestors, but if you’re gonna be against keyboard apps spying on you it should be irrelevant who they’re spying for. Criticizing shitty things American companies do doesn’t make you a China shill and calling everyone who does it a China shill is intellectually dishonest.

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  • SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    claiming that the dozen people in this thread falsely equating what China is doing to the things that happen in the US – ignoring that they are very different, and ONLY considering that they are moving attention away from the posted article – is not so much “intellectually dishonest” as it is an intentional lie with a goal. Good bye.

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    • Rambi@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Kinda funny how your own username partially contradicts your argument.

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      • MetalJewSolid@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        “It’s different when it’s dystopian dictatorships that were nominally communist in the 70s”

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• 13esq@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  That’s false equivalence.

  China killing protesters does not make it OK for Google or anyone else to spy on you.

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  • SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    spy on

    yeah no shit. The point is that they aren’t equivalent, trying to make them so is a destructive distraction

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    • 13esq@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This thread is about an app that spies on you, it is absolutely relevant to want to talk about other apps that do the same thing.

      The “yH bUt ChInA iS EvIl” rhetoric is an irrelevant distraction from the topic at hand.

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  • SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s not what is being pointed. In China, you don’t have freedom of information. They are authoritarian, borderline totalitarian. Yeah, Google spy and the US spy on us but to say America/Google is just as bad is the false equivalence.

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    • 13esq@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m not saying that America/Google is just as bad. I’m saying that in a thread discussing apps that spy on you, that talking about non-Chinese apps that also hoard your data is absolutely relevant and shouldn’t be trumped or silenced by a “yh, but China is evil tho” type comment.

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• niceboysummer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I found a really great reading list for more in depth perspectives on Tianamen Square Like everything, wikipedia comes with its own bias and is generally not comprehensive when it comes to understanding a subject.

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  • SouthernCanadian@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The sources are… A bunch of tankie newsletters, a Medium article, and official Chinese reports? LOL talk about bias.

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• PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Sir this is a Wendy’s

  Or more specifically, a thread about a phone keyboard.

  But it is true that Google and Microsoft phone home with your key strokes. That’s how they develop their predictive typing and autocorrect.

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