Comment on Restaurant in NYC offshores cashier job to Philippines so they can pay below minimum wage ($3/hr in Philippines)

Twoafros@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• 31337@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Venezualla has somewhat of a history of workers seizing their factories. I think it would be extremely hard in the U.S. due to the well-funded police. Generally, I guess the movement would be “anarcho-syndicalism.”

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  • Chewget@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They’ll send in the national guard

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  • Twoafros@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Thanks. I didn’t know about Venezuela’s history at all. But I meant not more on a policy level to mandate that all companies must be owned equally by employees instead of shareholders

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  • rodkaroma117@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Got some sources on that? I was born and raised there and all I can find is the government seizing factories, not the workers

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    • 31337@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Oh shit. Mixed it up with Argentina.

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• intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Forcing isn’t good.

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  • Aceticon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    By that hyper-simplistic “logic” people shouldn’t be forced into prison if they murder someone.

    Clearly some kinds forcing are necessary, by which point it’s all about “when is forcing right and when is it not?” something that childlike “logic” of yours doesn’t even begin to address.

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    • aidan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Forcing to defend the lives of others, is very different from forcibly taking what belongs to others

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      • hglman@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The meme is right, the claim of belonging is complete bullshit. Your toothbrush and your home belong to you, a business involving multiple people belongs to everyone involved. The idea that it doesn’t is narcissism and evil.

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      • butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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      • jlou@mastodon.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It rightfully belongs to the workers. The firm is basically a vehicle for appropriating the positive and negative product of production. The just basis of property is getting the positive and negative fruits of your labor (i.e. the labor theory of property). In a capitalist employer-employee relationship, the employer gets solely holds the whole product while workers are denied their claim to it despite it being a result of their labor.

        @aboringdystopia

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  • iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Forcing is absolutely good. We force companies to do all kinds of things, in terms of corporate governance (publicly traded companies must have their finances audited, for example), ownership (banks used to be prevented from buying stock so that they would not avoid calling in bad debt), and how they do business (collusion between big tech to keep salaries down for example).

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• jlou@mastodon.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yes:

  https://www.abolishhumanrentals.org

  @aboringdystopia

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  • Twoafros@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Thanks! First time hearing of this.

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