You came in here with your absolutist utilitarian life above all else or we all die post just to respond with this because someone suggested you to stop eating meat. Beautiful.
Look, you’re not really wrong, but you get that this shit is why people get irritated with vegans right? We were talking about being wasteful with energy resources for the sake of capitalism and you came in with a lazy segue to animal rights and nutritional health.
It’s a conversation that we should be having, but it’s also insufferable to constantly be shoehorning it into every conversation.
treadful@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
That’s not veganism, that’s environmentalism. Veganism is recognizing that animals have the right not to be treated as property and have atrocities visited upon them. That the experiences of animals are real and matter. That their suffering is identical in nature to your own.
Teppichbrand@feddit.org 2 months ago
I don’t agree. The comment points out the single most easy and effektive move an individal without political nor financial power can make to cut personal co2-emissions with just a change of habit. It’s not about animal rights and not about your health. Us still eating meat even though we know better is an incredibly dumb waste of energy for the sake of pleasure, exactly like this shitty powereating globe.
todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Oh, you’re one of those “you can save the planet with your personal habits” people…
You enjoy your salad. I’m wondering what it takes to firebomb an oil refinery.
AIhasUse@lemmy.world 2 months ago
And you are one of those “every problem on the planet is the fault of someone else other than me so I can do whatever I want with no regard for it’s affect on anyone else” people. Stay away from us if you can’t be bothered to carry your own weight, you just drag down people who actually give a shit about something other than their own immediate selfish gratification.
todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Yes.
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Jrockwar@feddit.uk 2 months ago
Take a train instead of a flight. Cycle to work or take public transport instead of driving. Install a heat pump or solar in your house. There are a million things people can do to cut down their emissions that can be as effective as becoming herbivores, depending on each one’s personal situation.
Plus, I don’t have the numbers in my head but I’m pretty sure a locally grown fillet of chicken is more environmentally friendly than an avocado that has travelled across the Atlantic, so “buy local” would be probably better advice.
Teppichbrand@feddit.org 2 months ago
Yeah, so many things one should do. Yet nothing is as simple as paying for a different product next time you’re shopping your groceries.
Avocados are way less harmfull to our planet than local meat. People keep bringing this up so often it’s part of the Vegan Bullshit Bingo.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
eating meat doesn’t emit co2
danc4498@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Producing that meat does.
Note that the commenter didn’t say to quit all eating meat. They just said to quit eating “factory farmed” meat.
It’s not about eating meat, it’s about factory farming the meat and the damage to the environment caused by it.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
… right. but your personal consumption doesn’t change industrial output.
Teppichbrand@feddit.org 2 months ago
Yes it does. Fuck, am I debating 12 year old smartasses again?!
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
those are emissions from production.