Comment on DVDs are dying right as streaming has made them appealing again

• catloaf@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Steam isn’t DRM free, though. Most games use Steamworks DRM.

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  • explore_broaden@midwest.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah I don’t think DRM-free is really a requirement for most people.

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    • paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So then we have iTunes. The only one it does not cover is the permanent ownership. Companies have yanked stuff from iTunes libraries before.

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      • explore_broaden@midwest.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        See also us.7digital.com; there are a number of places you can buy and download CD-quality music files. I believe iTunes actually lets you download music you buy as normal audio files as well.

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      • thejml@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s why you download it. Luckily iTunes m4a files are high quality and unlocked so I can instantly play them in anything, even my Synology apps.

        Video isn’t the same though. That’s all still encrypted.

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  • Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Steamworks DRM is not a requirement though.

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  • dan@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I know, I modified it to make more sense for video.

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• SGG@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Companies see that as a mistake. They want you on a subscription for life that they can arbitrarily change at any time.

  Profits not increasing enough for this quarter? Better cut content, increase prices, increase the number of ads.

  Profits increased amazingly this quarter? Better cut content, increase prices, increase the number of ads.

  Profits down? Better cut content, increase prices, increase the number of ads, and start adding extra paywalls to some content

  They want you to own nothing. Oh you unsubscribed? Sorry even the content you paid extra to unlock was only available while your subscription continued, you will need to start your subscription again and then pay to unlock the content again.

  A show isn’t popular enough? Better write it off, pull it from all distribution so you can claim it as a tax write off

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  • sturmblast@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yarrrrrrrr

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    • SGG@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yarrrrrr indeed

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  • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I wouldn’t even mind the subscription if all the content was there reliably, and I only needed one.

    I subscribe to a music service, because all the music is there and it’s easier than swiping it.

    If I had to subscribe to four different ones to get access to all the artists I listen to, then I’d still be pirating that.

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• Stovetop@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Steam satisfies only your third point, though. Otherwise, no. You don’t actually own your Steam library, Steam itself is DRM, and it doesn’t have everything.

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  • dan@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I know. I changed the terms. Pray I don’t change them further.

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    • 0x0@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Pay so I don’t change them further.

      FTFY

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      • otp@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        More like

        Pay so I can change them further.

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  • btaf45@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I was pissed when suddenly I could no longer play any of my purchased steam games on my Windows 7 desktop that had all worked perfectly before. Eventually all your steam games are going to be unplayable on your current OS, and any game that is no longer profitable to support on the latest OS will be permanently unplayable. That’s why I always prefer to buy games on GOG over steam. When you buy a game on GOG you really do own the game forever.

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• mrvictory1@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  FYI Steam had videos a few years ago, new purchases are discontinued but one can still playback their existing library.

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• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I honestly don’t mind copy protections, I just don’t like online DRM. If the service is good enough, I’ll look past that particular portion.

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  • dan@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I won’t. “Copy protection” is much more about restricting and potentially even removing your access to something you’ve paid for than it is about preventing copying. I am not willing to buy something that can be revoked when alternatives are available.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Offline copy protection, like the copy protection in DVDs and Bluray, can’t be revoked, they’re literally designed to be static. It’s really not an issue since, given time, it’ll be cracked (and both are, I literally just finished ripping my collection). I’m fine with that form of copy protection, I’m not fine with online-only DRM because that’s totally revokable.

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      • dan@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Disagree. In order to keep those keys secure they can’t publish them, so they’ll have to license some sort of decryption chip. That just pushes the price up as some manufacturer ends up taking a cut from every player sale.

        Also means you can’t do what you want with it. You probably can’t play it on an open source device. Etc etc.

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  • Olhonestjim@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    DRM = copy protection

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Not necessarily. DVDs and Blurays have copy protections, but they don’t require access to any servers. Online DRM sucks because if your internet goes out, their servers are having troubles, or they just shut down the servers for whatever reason, you cannot use your media.

      So I’m 100% fine with offline copy protections, I’m not okay with DRM that requires online access.

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• sturmblast@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yeah, this is basically what we need.

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