There are always two paths to take - take away all of humanity’s tools or aggressively police people who abuse them. No matter the tool (AI, computers, guns, cars, hydraulic presses) there will be somebody who abuses it, and for society to function properly we have to do something about the delinquent minority of society.
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Zak@lemmy.world 2 months agoAre you surprised by teenage boys making fake nudes of girls in their school? I’m surprised by how few of these cases have made the news.
I don’t think there’s any way to put this cat back in the bag. We should probably work on teaching boys not to be horrible.
pennomi@lemmy.world 2 months ago
ThePantser@lemmy.world 2 months ago
No matter the tool (AI, computers, guns, cars, hydraulic presses) there will be somebody who abuses it,
Hydraulic press channel guy offended you somehow? I’m missing something here.
pennomi@lemmy.world 2 months ago
No, just an example. But if you’ve ever noticed the giant list of safety warnings on industrial machinery, you should know that every single one of those rules was written in blood.
0x0@programming.dev 2 months ago
Either Darwin awards or assholes, most likely. Those warnings are written due to fear of lawsuit.
Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I don’t think they’re offended. I think they’re saying that a tool is a tool. A gun or AI are only dangerous if misused, like a hydraulic press.
We can’t go around removing the tools because some people will abuse them. Any tool can kill someone.
Obi@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
Guns have no other purpose though, they shouldn’t be lumped in with the rest of that list (except hunting rifles and so on, for folks that actually need them).
afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Guns do not belong in the list. Guns are weapons, not tools. Don’t bother posting some random edge case that accounts for approximately 0.000001% of use. This is a basic category error.
Governments should make rules banning and/or regulating weapons.
pennomi@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Weapons are tools, by strict definition, and there are legitimate uses for them. Besides, my point was that they should be regulated. In fact, because they are less generally useful than constructive tools, they should be regulated far MORE strictly.
afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Weapons are tools,
Prove it. Prove that the majority of people think of a gun in the same way as they do a screwdriver
by strict definition,
Assertion without evidence
and there are legitimate uses for them.
I see we didn’t read what I wrote, only the first sentence of what I wrote.
Besides, my point was that they should be regulated. In fact, because they are less generally useful than constructive tools, they should be regulated far MORE strictly.
By generally you mean not even close to them yes.
catloaf@lemm.ee 2 months ago
We could also do a better job of teaching people from childhood not to be assholes.
devfuuu@lemmy.world [bot] 2 months ago
That’s been working fine…
Evotech@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Teenagers are literally retarded. Like their reasoning centers are not developed and they physically cannot think. There’s no way to teach that
Katrisia@lemm.ee 2 months ago
No, they’re not fully developed, but they distinguish actions morally (even older children do) and they can choose to do better.
Evotech@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s how they learn it.
BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 2 months ago
It’s like these x-ray apps that obviously didn’t work but promoted to see all the women naked. Somehow that was very cool and no one cared. Suddenly there is something that kinda works and everyone is shocked.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
I’m not sure you can teach boys not to be horny teenagers 😜
DarkThoughts@fedia.io 2 months ago
Being horny is one thing, sharing this stuff another. If whoever did the fake would've kept it to themselves, then nobody would've even known. The headline still is ass and typical "AI" hysteria though.
lenz@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
They shouldn’t have generated it in the first place. How would you feel if people did that to your mom, or you, or your sisters, or your kids?
I don’t think just keeping it to yourself is enough.
DarkThoughts@fedia.io 2 months ago
I don't really care. People can and will fantasize in the same way about other people too and I'm not going to play thought police.
BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Man can you imagine? Someone cutting out my moms head and glues it on a porstar? I would kill myself.
Zak@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Having been a teenage boy myself, I wouldn’t dream of trying.
But I knew it wasn’t OK to climb a tree with binoculars to try to catch a glimpse of the girl next door changing clothes, and I knew it wasn’t OK to touch people without their consent. I knew people who did things like that were peeping toms and rapists. I believed peeping toms and rapists would be socially ostracized and legally punished more harshly than they often are in reality.
Making and sharing deepfakes of real people without their consent belongs on the same spectrum.
MagicShel@programming.dev 2 months ago
We do eventually grow up at least
… into horny men
… but hopefully with a little more empathy and propriety.