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• Paddzr@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Most people disconnect the media from the creator… Not all, but hating on everyone who likes Harry Potter makes you look like a lunatic.

  Fuck, Tolkien had some fucked up ideas too, but I’m not going around calling people out on it.

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  • Maven@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I would agree if it weren’t for the fact that JK has done multiple massive anti-trans media campaigns and has also stated multiple times that the profits from her creation go towards hurting trans people.

    If she kept that a secret or anything then sure… But it’s not exactly a hidden fact that money gained from Harry Potter is being put towards hate.

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    • damnedfurry@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The fact is, most Harry Potter fans neither know nor care about any of the personal exploits of the author.

      If she kept that a secret or anything then sure… But it’s not exactly a hidden fact that money gained from Harry Potter is being put towards hate.

      The spaces you hang out in obviously make a big deal of these and broadcast them consistently, I’m sure. But it’s clear you spend enough time in them that you’ve lost perspective in how things are in the ‘world at large’.

      Although it’s very obvious and “not hidden”, to you, it wouldn’t even have to be hidden from the average Harry Potter fan, because they make literally zero effort to seek it out. They simply don’t care about anything she does, outside of writing the books they like to read.

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      • whoreticulture@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Literally just look at JK Rowling’s twitter feed on any given day, it’s not a secret, you’re just not paying attention bc you’re not a trans ally.

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• PhilMcGraw@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I thought it was funny.

  As far as supporting JKR goes: JKR is a horrible person who no-one should listen to but Harry Potter is pop culture. I’m pretty comfortable personally with disconnecting the two in my head. I don’t think people enjoying Harry Potter should be seen as “supporting JKR”, hell a lot of them wouldn’t even be aware of JKRs noise.

  Obviously I haven’t read the comments here a ton but are people really supporting JKR or are you just treating people enjoying Harry Potter as support for JKR? I think there should be a distinction. It’s not really people’s job to deep dive into the person’s lives of the creators or people involved in every piece of art they enjoy.

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  • Maven@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s a little bit of both of what you listed. Enjoying Harry Potter on its own is generally fine… The problem I have with it personally, especially in this case, is that JKR has specifically stated multiple times that the funds from it go directly to anti-trans organizations.

    People are allowed to enjoy whatever they want to enjoy, but if that thing directly funds hate… I am likely to think less fondly of them.

    Similarly, if someone says their favorite person is Andrew Tate, I probably won’t match with them.

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    • PhilMcGraw@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Oh right, I was not aware of JKRs comments on funding anti-trans organisations. I guess my point still stands, I.e. that people often don’t have deep insight into the creators of the art they are enjoying, so considering liking Harry Potter as a statement about their feelings on the author doesn’t resonate with me but I understand why you’d have issues with it with the funding comment in mind.

      Entirely agree on liking Andrew Tate being a red flag in the same way liking JKR directly would be a red flag. It’s more liking the books that JKR put out years before anyone heard her potentially rotting brain driven opinions on trans people that I don’t think should be seen as a red flag without at least some questioning about their thoughts on the author.

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      • un_owen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I.e. that people often don’t have deep insight into the creators of the art they are enjoying, so considering liking Harry Potter as a statement about their feelings on the author doesn’t resonate with me

        Which is fair, but then the same people get offended when you try to educate them. It’s the same debate every time a new Harry Potter medium is announced. At this point, you must be living under a rock if you are a Harry Potter fan and have never heard of the controversy that surrounds JKR.

        I think most people don’t know about JKR because they don’t want to know. They are afraid that when they dig deeper, they will have to let go of their favorite franchise, so they choose denial and ignorance instead. It’s hard to give people the benefit of the doubt when a topic has been discussed so many times for so many years.

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      • whoreticulture@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        JKR has been incredibly vocal and actively pushing for anti-trans legislation. It’s not a secret, and there are many people who vocally do not care and support her anyway.

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