Comment on Does anyone else feel like fireworks are a complete waste of money and a ridiculous amount of unnecessary Pollution?

• illi@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Not just dogs or other pets, but also farm and wild animals. And it may not only lead to suffering, but also lead to their deaths.

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  • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Really?

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    • illi@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yep. With wild animals it may result in the running away in fear without thought and get lost or injured which may result in their death. This technically applies to all animals.

      Another aspect which affects all is heart attack from the shock.

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      • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I guess ban vehicles of any sort, then. I’d imagine animals dying from fireworks are nearly 0. I’d imagine ones dead from traveling are a thousand an hour in the US.

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  • nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    A local icecream place that also had goats and ducks was fucking setting them off right over the goat pen. They were sprinting from shelter to shelter inbetween explosions.

    I don’t plan on going back there now. It’s a shame because it’s one of the better shops nearby.

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• A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That’s what I’m saying. One day we’ll look back in amazement that we let the public buy fireworks willy-nilly. Even the “it was good enough for me!” crowd of angry old-timers will have to go “Well, yeah, people blowed they hands off. And it bothered my veteran son and the neighbor’s dogs a lot. They’re alright.”

  Now, I fully admit later today I will be running around in a country field with my friends shooting bottle rockets at each other. But we won’t be bothering SOMEONE ELSE, and that’s my thing.

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  • ramble81@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Except fireworks has literally been a part of civilization for 1,000 plus years, so I don’t see that changing anytime soon.

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    • SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So have horses

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  • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    One day we’ll look back in amazement that we let people have sex willy nilly and bond with whomever they like on a whim, forming friendships and families without central oversight.

    But that doesn’t mean that future we’ll be looking back from in amazement won’t be a dystopian nightmare, or that our perspective won’t be warped by even more decades of infantilization.

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  • Feathercrown@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    As someone who generally is in favor of regulating dangerous things, fireworks are fine as-is. They’re basically limited to one night a year, the damage is not very extreme, and the people getting hurt are by and large the people choosing to endanger themselves.

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• Xantar@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You make a good point. Which can also be made about any form of freedom as soon as it encroaches on someone else’s comfort.

  Ignoring the obvious nuance, a loud concert or a horror movie are also not something law enforcement will do anything against but it could terrorize people as well.

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  • odigo2020@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If a loud concert or horror movie popped up next door and rattled the houses of an entire neighborhood from 10pm to 2am, I’m pretty sure law enforcement would do something about it.

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    • Xantar@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Did you miss the “Ignoring the obvious nuance”

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      • Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Then what value does the comparison have if you nullify the main point of comparing them?

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    • Mac@mander.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      it would bother you that much even only being once a year? really?

      that’s wild

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      • odigo2020@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If only it were once a year. This year, people started on the 28th of fucking June, and didn’t stop until the goddamn 6th.

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• intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What I can’t stand is the widespread uncontrollable nonsense of just anyone buying them and setting them off at any hour on the 4th. Law enforcement can do absolutely nothing about it.

  Do you understand why this is our way of celebrating Independence Day? Fireworks are a loud, visible, symbol and example of freedom from authority.

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  • Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You mean freedom from british authority, we still have authority.

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  • rodbiren@midwest.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We also have the freedom to self govern. Laws are on the books to prevent firework usage in my state, it is simply ignored one night a year because it turns out mass lawbreaking is hard to handle. I don’t have the right to conduct a parade in the middle of whichever street I want whenever I want. I participate in the social contract of sacrificing absolute freedom for mutual gain because I live in a country and am not a sovereign citizen claiming complete supremacy over all others. My taxes pay for a small and well moderated fireworks show at a designated location conducted by a local government for which I had a hand in voting for. My freedom is louder, collective, voted for, and more sensible. Not all freedom must be focused soley on the individual.

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