Just need to waste a ton of energy extracting it then liquifying it then hoping that transport doesn’t face any issues (and I mean, considering our track record with petrol which doesn’t corrode everything it touches I sure as hell wouldn’t worry about it) and then fill up your personal car that could have simply been powered by electricity from the beginning…
Comment on Toyota builds experimental hydrogen-powered pizza oven and grill.
CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 4 months agoAs Toyota has demonstrated (and speaking from my own experience), it’s not that tricky. As for cooking with the stuff, sometimes you just need portability and/or a flame. Electric is a poor choice in those cases.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Wait wait wait, you’re telling me that taking electricity, sending it along wires, generating hydrogen with it via hydrolysis, packaging it, compressing it to an extreme degree, physically transporting it, putting it in pumps, pumping it into your car, then doing reverse hydrolysis to charge a battery that then powers an electric motor…
Is less efficient than sending electricity along some wires to your car, charging its battery, to drive an electric motor?
I’m shocked!
JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Portability is hard for hydrogen since you hadn’t liquify it without huge pressures and cryogenic temps, so you need big tanks. But cooking stoves does seem like a pretty good use case.
themurphy@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
I think the experts who believes in this technology know a bit more than you and me who only read a few wiki pages.
If money is going into this, they also have a believable plan. But big oil certainly want you to think otherwise.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Huh? It’s big oil and the like who are pushing hydrogen over electricity.
And the problem with hydrogen is largely to do with the laws of physics, so it’s unlikely to change soon.
CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 4 months ago
I don’t understand this suspicion. It’s easier to burn fossil fuels for electricity than to reform them into hydrogen.
wholookshere@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
That’s an appeal to authority fallacy if I’ve ever seen one.
CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 4 months ago
Compress it to 10,000psi and it gets portable enough.
JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
As I said, huge pressures. You’ll need super heavy or super exotic tanks.
CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 4 months ago
What’s so exotic about a composite pressure vessel? They’re already used in scuba and paintball.