Comment on don't use ladybird browser lol

• nantsuu@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Some people don't identify as either of those. And there already is a common word that can be used for either singular or plural, which is "you."

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  • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And English is imprecise for “you” as well. For he/she/it grammar at least doesn’t change. Substitute that pronoun for they and suddenly the grammar switches to plural. That totally confuses me.

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    • Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “They” can quite happily function as singular. I asked my friend about this and they gave me their opinion. They told me that they use “they” or “them” to discuss people when their biological sex is unimportant or unknown. I would like to ask them more but they have to leave. They tell me that they’ll be back later.

      They (singular) say something. He/she/it says something. They (all) say something. You (all) say something. I say something. You (singular) say something. You’ll notice “he/she/it” seems to be the irregular outlier here. English is strange.

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      • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah without the singular they your English is bad. Sucks for non native speakers but it’s how our language works.

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      • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        “He goes”. Correct.

        “She goes.” Correct.

        “It goes.” Correct.

        “They goes.” Wrong. And that’s just confusing for people who never ever were taught that in any form of education. I know it’s an old construct and not a new innovation but for people like me it feels just off. It’s not malice on my part to act against different genders, I’m just explaining why that part of the English language is weird

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• iltg@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  you don’t understand the language and thus everyone should comply with you? i’d rather read correct english than what you find more understandable

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  • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You obviously understand English to a lesser degree than me. I nowhere wrote that I made demands to comply with me. Where on earth do you get that idea that offering a perspective is a demand?

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    • iltg@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      then use “they”, do you speak exclusively with yourself? your linguistic choices affect others, just like others’ linguistic choices affect you (as you were noticing and complaining about)

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      • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        then use “they”

        After 30 years of education saying otherwise it is not so easy.

        do you speak exclusively with yourself?

        I don’t speak English with others at all. I’m not in an English speaking country.

        your linguistic choices affect others

        Having a hard time grasping completely new concepts is not a choice.

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  • Zoot@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Is “He” not correct grammatically speaking?

    Let’s be real here, I’ve seen every post about Lady Bird and every time someone comes in to make a huge nothing burger about this PR. Yall are just a gigantic mob out for blood for absolutely no reason.

    Your concern should be whether or not the browser works, its not even finished ffs. If this were a released, absolutely 100% complete app, then sure! Go and be pessimistic about grammar. However I can garauntee you they have bigger obstacles to overcome.

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• alyth@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “they” ist kein Pluralwort. “they” ist ein Pronomen der 3. Person Singular sowie der 3. Person Plural. Das ist genau so, wie “you” ein Pronomen der 2. Personal Singular und der 2. Person Plural ist.

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  • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “they” ist kein Pluralwort.

    And yet the grammar attached with its use is plural and that’s super weird. “They goes to the store” is just wrong.

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