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puppy@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Darkraisisi@feddit.nl ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What does the first part add to your statement? Is that his selling point?

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  • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Looks like some weird hoop thinking advocating men’s rights (equal retirement age) is only done by Petersen and other nutcases

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    • imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      To be fair, the men’s rights movement is absolutely characterized as alt-right by the mainstream media. People tend to assume all sorts of things about you when you bring up any kind of men’s issue. Most people (including other men) have difficulty empathizing with grown men, and thus they subconsciously expect that men’s advocates are motivated by something else, such as misogyny. It’s hard to move past our biological and cultural tendencies and view men as vulnerable and in need of support.

      Don’t hate the player, hate the game.

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      • Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Depends on the approach. In a lot of queer friendly spaces men’s issues are generally accepted as incredibly valid as gay and trans men tend to get pretty hardcore beat down by failing to pass the bar of the expectations of cultural masculinity and on average they require more outside help from services or others because they are less likely to be able to return to their families to escape abusive relationships.

        But the difference tends to be a general understanding that while women definitely get it and can absolutely sympathize they also aren’t in a particularly great position to change things in a general sense because women also have to regularly fight against social power of systems that depower their autonomy that are fronted by men and they generally have to see to their own needs before being able to do the administrative work on men’s behalf.

        It’s emergency airplane crash logic. Put your own supply of air on before you help the person next to you. If your job, legislature, judicial system and potential funding structure is only made up of a minority of women you are asking a lot of people who don’t have institutional power to flex even on their own behalf and a lot of women have deep seated anger regarding that disparity so when someone tries to pile more on their plates the gut reaction is to throw it back. Women might be willing to assist, but they aren’t going to accept doing the lions share of the required admin for another group when they have other priorities. The same goes for queer groups, racial minority groups, religious minorities, disability affected groups and so on. They might have room on their plate to show up to your protest… But usually that requires you to you show a willingness to reciprocate and show up to theirs.

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  • humbletightband@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    He actually supports Jordan Peterson but feels bad about it

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