Comment on The difference between equality, justice and equity.

• Whirlwindwanderer@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What stops the other person from choosing a different spot…

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  • VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Myriad factors, many of which is out of their control. The illustration could have added fences and other barriers, but that would have sacrificed clarity for unnecessary accuracy.

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  • Amilo159@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The tree is a metaphor. In reality it could be job market, one being man and other a woman applying for jobs that traditionally want/prefer men to work.

    Or any number of things.

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  • pjhenry1216@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don't know. What stops you from living in any house you want?

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    • Whirlwindwanderer@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Nothing equivalent of that is depicted.

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  • Surreal@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The image needs better ideas. Maybe make the right kid has broken legs so that kid could not freely move to the correct spot

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• toastus@feddit.de ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I didn’t think the tree was either a tool or assistance.
  Especially since it is still the same in the second panel where tools or assistance are supposed to be equal.

  But I am not good at those things. I just don’t seem to get it.

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  • Amilo159@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Tree is the situation, that is benefiting one person more than other.

    Equality means you provide equal help to all and expect them to be equally benefitted. Sometimes that doesn’t work.

    Perfect example would be a Spaniard and Frenchman learning a new language, say Italian. This would be easy for a Spanish person because Italian is similar to Spanish. Not so much for French. Providing them both with 10 hours of language classes will be equality but results won’t be equal.

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    • toastus@feddit.de ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah thank you.

      The part that I still don’t quite get is why giving both people 10 hours of classes is equality but giving both 0 hours of lessons isn’t.
      (Or giving both kids 1 ladder vs. giving both kids 0 ladders.)

      I get that the analogy to a real situation would be to just let inequality run its course and that is obviously not the same as giving everyone the same assistance. I still don’t think the picture makes this point very well.

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    • whats_a_refoogee@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You said the quiet part out loud. “Equally benefitted” is another way to describe equity.

      Providing them both with 10 hours of language classes will be equality but results won’t be equal.

      Again, you’re just arguing for equity and against equality. Equality and equity are fundamentally incompatible, since achieving equity requires unequal treatment. Presumably your example ends with the Italian person getting more than 10 hours of lessons because of his nationality. You seriously need to acknowledge that you’re advocating for one person to receive better treatment because of their nationality, and consider the consequences of that being an acceptable practice. You’re trying to reverse over a century of human civilisation’s progress.

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