Comment on Even Apple finally admits that 8GB RAM isn't enough

• prole@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I don’t think anyone anywhere is claiming 8GB RAM is enough for software and AI development. Pretty sure we’re talking about consumer-grade hardware here.

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  • monnier@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    My main development machine has 8 GB, for what it’s worth. And most of the software in use nowadays was developped when 8GB was a lot of RAM

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    • abhibeckert@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This. My Mac has 16GB but I use up half of it with a Linux virtual machine, since I use my Mac to write Linux software.

      I don’t need to do that - I could totally run that software directly on my Mac, but I like having a dev environment where I can just delete it all and start over without affecting my main OS. I could totally work effectively with 8GB.

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  • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The lede by OP here contains this:

    a feature called Predictive Code Completion. Unfortunately, if you bought into Apple’s claim that 8GB of unified memory was enough for base-model Apple silicon Macs, you won’t be able to use it

    So either RecluseRamble meant that development with a feature predictive code completion would work on 8 GB of RAM if you were using Linux or his comparison was shit.

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    • RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s absolutely what I’m saying. Apple is just holding back that feature for upselling (as always) and because it’s hardly possible to debloat macOS.

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      • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Okay good, thanks for confirming. I remember Kate feeling very nice to use during my studies, more responsive than VS Code or Eclipse. But I also had 16Gigabytes of RAM, so I couldn’t be sure.

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  • uis@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t think anyone anywhere is claiming 8GB RAM is enough for software development

    I do. GCC doesn’t need much. Vim/emacs work fine with 1GB of RAM. With 2 GB you can run QtCreator instead of vim.

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  • mightyfoolish@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Macbook Pros aren’t really consumer grade hardware. Nor are they priced like consumer grade hardware.

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    • RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Nor are they priced like consumer grade hardware.

      Apple products in general aren’t.

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      • mightyfoolish@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s not true at all. Macbook Air starts at $900. You can even find a used M1 Air gor cheaper. Absolutely was a steal compared to the budget thin laptops from Asus, Acer, etc. which start around $700. Once you go below $700 in laptop market, corners are cut. Perhaps Mediatek WiFi chips are used, laptop isn’t thin, touchpad is awful, screen colors are worse. Apple usually puts iPad + keyboard in that market segment instead.

        Tl; dr: Apple products are more expensive than budget electronics but priced comparatively to items that compete with it. However, electronic prices in the high end tier are getting hirer.

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    • uis@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Macbook Pros aren’t really consumer grade hardware.

      They are even below that.

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