Comment on non vegan pizza time

• 5wim@slrpnk.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  And?

  Your wikipedia links don’t make an assertion. The one on UPF does remind you, though, that

  Some authors have criticised the concept of “ultra-processed foods” as poorly defined

  The crux of this learning moment for you shouldn’t be about definitions, but the relative “healthiness” of vegan food products.

  It’s clear you began with a preference to paint with a broad brush these meat substitute products as “junk food,” and you have the opportunity to recognize they aren’t as obviously unhealthy as you first thought.

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  • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    [Every 10 percentage points increase in plant-sourced non-UPF consumption was associated with a 7% lower risk of CVD (95% CI 0.91–0.95) and a 13% lower risk of CVD mortality (0.80–0.94). Conversely, plant-sourced UPF consumption was associated with a 5% increased risk (1.03–1.07) and a 12% higher mortality (1.05–1.20). The contribution of all UPF was linked to higher CVD risk and mortality, and no evidence for an association between contribution of all plant-sourced foods and CVD incidence and mortality was observed.](https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(24)00115-7/fulltext)

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    • 5wim@slrpnk.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Oh honey, your stealth edit shows that you don’t understand. I’ll explain it to you: the study you keep linking doesn’t differentiate between those foods in that “range of ultra-processed foods (UPF),” so that means data coming from “sugar-sweetened beverages, snacks, confectionery” is getting all mixed in with the data of the “‘plant-sourced’ sausages, nuggets, and burgers,” which unfortunately renders the conclusions of the study rather meaningless when we’re talking about the CVD outcomes of just one of the data sets.

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      • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        What is a stealth edit?

        I fixed some formatting issues. Does that make the study I linked invalid?

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    • 5wim@slrpnk.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Low-effort repost of your specious use of a study with nebulous conclusions for this conversation; I’ll quote the user above:

      that category contains “soft drinks, sweet or savoury packaged snacks, confectionery; packaged breads and buns; reconstituted meat products and pre-prepared frozen or shelf-stable dishes.” This gives you no information on Impossible burgers’ impact on cardiovascular disease, it only gives you a trend among people who eat all of the above. I would suspect the reality is Impossible meat contributes to CVD slightly more than straight-up vegetables and significantly less than red meat.

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      • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        So?

        Link a study showing that, it should be easy.

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