Comment on EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control

• PonyOfWar@pawb.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Source? In Germany at least that’s not the case, it’s mainly the conservatives who push for it. In the original vote, only the greens clearly opposed it. Later on, SPD (center-left) and FDP (liberal) changed course to also oppose it. Couldn’t find results for other countries though, so I’m genuinely curious.

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  • wewbull@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The labels get confusing especially between countries, but left and right are normally viewed as being economic policy classifications, but you can have authoritarians on right and left and all need to be fought.

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    • LesserAbe@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t think that’s accurate, there’s a social axis from left to right too.

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      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I think of authoritarian as being up and down, and social and economic views as left and right. Check out the political compass if you haven’t. It would be nice if it was 3D with economic and social policy being separated though.

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  • melroy@kbin.melroy.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I did found: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/ All the red countries where in favor actually. Yellow were in research. Green is opposed.

    here is the document itself: https://data.consilium.europa.eu/doc/document/ST-11316-2024-INIT/fr/pdf#page=4

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• dactylotheca@suppo.fi ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Doesn’t change who’s in charge now

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  • melroy@kbin.melroy.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I believe all parties in EU are not really understanding technology in general. So I think it's a very bad decision to give these people power over these kinds of rules. They just have no idea what they are doing frankly.

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    • dactylotheca@suppo.fi ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yep, no disagreement there. This sort of mass surveillance is a fucking terrible idea no matter who’s behind the wheel

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      • melroy@kbin.melroy.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        exactly, they these people are constantly trying to come up mass surveillance, over and over and over again. Never ending story.

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    • uis@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I believe all parties in EU are not really understanding technology in general.

      There are pirates. Well, after last elections it seems to be only the pirate. One.

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