We’ve had 70 years to figure out how to produce cost-competitive nuclear energy. It’s time to move on.
Comment on Bill Gates-backed nuclear contender Terra Power aims to build dozens of UK reactors
Zron@lemmy.world 1 year agoThe energy density of nuclear fuels is unparalleled.
Modern reactor designs are extremely safe and stable, the only downside is the cost.
The cost is so high because they are basically boutique projects. Having a standardized design with mass produced components would go a long way to making nuclear reactors more affordable.
IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Laser_Frog@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
And electric cars have had over 100 years, so should we have given up on them? Your argument is flawed.
IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Not at all. We’ve seen massive advancements with EVs, 300+ miles ranges for under $40k are common now. Has nuclear both gotten more capable and cheaper during its lifetime? The answer is a resounding no.
Zron@lemmy.world 1 year ago
All of those EV advancements were only in the passed 20 years.
The first electric vehicle was made well over 100 years ago. Until very recently they were considered wildly expensive and impractical.
You consider nuclear to me unnecessary and impractical because we’ve had the tech for 75 years and it’s still expensive. Yet nuclear tech is younger than EVs, and you discredit advancements because… reasons.
Your stance confuses me.
Laser_Frog@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
The technology of modern reactors ,like the one in the article, is a greater advancement from early reactors that the 1900th century electric car to a modern one.
The materials, manufacturing techniques, fuels, controls, and components are only achievable due to modern advancements.
The latest reactors will be cheaper, more efficient, and safer. They are a necessary stopgap to overcome the transient nature of renewable energy in the UK and an important piece in ensuring energy availability and detachment from from fossil fuels.
sunbeam60@lemmy.one 1 year ago
We did produce cost competitive nuclear. When France went through it’s oil crisis recovery shift to nuclear, they built them every single year for a decade, going from a couple to 40+ in the span of a decade.
We’ve just stopped. So then of course the institutional knowledge disappears.
IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That’s fair. I’m not anti-nuclear on principle. If we had gone all-in 30 years ago it would’ve made some sense. To build new nuclear now though is a waste of money.
CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Honestly its a pretty great use of money if you’re thinking long term. A useful if not ideal energy source for the climate crisis especially with batteries not quite being there yet, and thinking past that to more substantial space exploration/colonization its good to already have a working power source that doesn’t rely specifically on earths environment.
Diplomjodler@feddit.de 1 year ago
And just why do you think that never happened? The Soviets tried that. And how did that go? The Japanese tried to use American designs without adapting them to local conditions and that’s how we got Fukushima. A nuclear reactor is simply too complex to be built in an assembly line. And all the promises of “small modular reactors” have been nothing but pipe dreams so far. I’m not saying it’s not doable. I’m saying it won’t happen any time soon. Anyone who touts nuclear power as a solution to climate change is either delusional or not arguing in good faith.
Aux@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Do you know why Chernobyl even happened? The reactors were designed and built by one ministry, but they were operated by a different ministry. And the first ministry did NOT share proper operational instructions, yet they knew and had internal documentation that such a shut down will result in a melt down. Workers at Chernobyl had no real clue what they were doing. It’s not a problem of nuclear power, it’s a problem of corruption and the power struggle of Soviet politics.
Diplomjodler@feddit.de 1 year ago
And all countries that run nuclear reactors these days are completely corruption free? Just look at Fukushima and the aftermath. And that’s one of the less corrupt countries of the world.