Comment on Tesla must face fraud suit for claiming its cars could fully drive themselves

• Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Musk defined it himself, as being able to drive from a parking lot across the country to pick you up in another parking lot.

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  • PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    and they could do that in theory, just not very safely

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    • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      In theory is not the same as actually being able to do it, which was what he clearly claimed saying: And we can do that NOW.

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      • PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Its only not possible on consumer models because of restrictions put in place by tesla.

        As evidenced by Elon mode

        A tesla can drive its self, but it doesnt because of regulatory/safety/liability reasons

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  • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It can do that now. Probably not with zero driver interventions especially when talking about a trip across the country but Tesla is the only vehicle manufacturer today that offers this capability. There’s a dude on YouTube doing ridesharing with Tesla using FSD and with the latest software version it completes 90% of the trips from the pickup to the destination without intervention from the driver.

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    • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It can do that now.

      OK?

      Probably not with zero driver interventions

      Oh so it can’t.

      Musk also said more safely than a human being. I’ve seen videos with FSD creating numerous dangerous situations on a single trip, that required intervention. Suddenly turning into opposite traffic, not minding right of way in crosses, and even turning straight towards parked cars, when the lane it was in was unobstructed!!

      There is no way it can be reasonably argued that Tesla has working full self driving.

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      • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I don’t see anyone claiming they have “working full self driving”. That’s a strawman argument. Their system is really good and years ahead of competition but there’s still a shit ton to improve. That’s why it’s classified as level 2 and not level 3. It’s a vehicle capable of driving itself under supervision but it’s not a self driving vehicle.

        I’ve seen videos with FSD creating numerous dangerous situations on a single trip

        In the past few months? Because the current software version is completely different than what it used to be. They’ve moved entirely from human code to neural nets and it made a giant improvement in its performance.

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