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dukethorion@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

“…locally on device without connecting to the internet”

How would it then report such behavior to Google, without internet?

If it notifies the end user, what good does that do? My phone is at my ear, I don’t stop a conversation when another app sends a notification while I’m on a call.

This will 100% report things in the background to Google.

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TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
You’re putting a very large amount of trust on something which may simply require the flip of a switch to add the specified information to be sent back to Google along with all the regular heavy telemetry already feeding back…

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- Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Mega hot take on this site: I have no trust in Google
  
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GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
There are a few ways this could work, but it hardly seems worth the effort if it’s not phoning home.

They could have an on-device database of red flags and use on-device voice recognition against that database. But then what? Pop up a “scam likely” screen while you’re already mid-call? Maybe include an option to report scams back to Google with a transcript? I guess that could be useful.

Any more more than that would be a privacy nightmare. I don’t want Google’s AI deciding which of my conversations are private and which get sent back to Google. Any non-zero false positive rate would simply be unacceptable.

Maybe this is the first look at a new cat and mouse game: AI to detect AI-generated voices? AI-generated voice scams are already out there in the wild and will only become more common as time goes on.

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helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

How would it then report such behavior to Google, without internet?

It doesn’t

In a demo, the tech giant simulated a scam call involving a fraudster impersonating a bank. A pop-up message appeared, encouraging the user to hang up.

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smeg@feddit.uk ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I assume it means the “AI” bit is running locally (for cost/efficiency reasons and so your actual voice isn’t uploaded) the results are then uploaded wherever (which is theoretically better but still hugely open to abuse)

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fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
My bet is it will work like their federated text prediction in gboard.

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