Bit of a weird take. The ship had faulty equipment and the crew did what it could to try to avert the disaster.
The ship's owners are who you should blame.
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MrPibb@lemmynsfw.com 5 months ago[deleted]
livus@kbin.social 5 months ago
taanegl@beehaw.org 5 months ago
Fair enough, but that still does not justify them being stuck on a ship for several months, because 1) there is no “due process” (search online for it’s proper definition and not the perversed US instituonalist definition), 2) it’s punishment without verdict, and 3) it’s inhumane. Actually, it’s an edge case the US judicial system is not capable of handling, because the US judiciary is lead by morons.
Again, you don’t get to justify this kind of treatment of people “because they did bad”. What’s next, a return to witch burning because the milk soured? The average deck hand, who had no power or influence over the matter, should have weeks of their pay disappear, meaning their families will go without food?
Why do yanks continuously defend, deflect and try to gloss over their own governments incompetence and unethical behaviour? The US needs dire judicial reform.
livus@kbin.social 5 months ago
I think you might have replied to my comment by accident.
grue@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Am I allowed to blame the moral hazard caused by the corporate diffusion of responsibility?
livus@kbin.social 5 months ago
Definitely. Global shipping is riddled with moral hazard and artificial externalities.
taanegl@beehaw.org 5 months ago
Excuse me, wtf? You’re not “discounting”, but indirectly condemning the whole crew when obviously it was the navigator and captain responsible for the negligence? Not only that, but almost indirectly affirming that they all deserve to be there?
“Oh I’m sorry, but this is ancient Egypt and you must be buried with the pharaoh.”
Prick. And no, don’t come at me with “but those 6 people who died”, because that justifies nothing.
Car@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
The ship had an engineering casualty which led to a loss of control. The navigator didn’t decide to drive into the bridge.
The captain is ultimately responsible, but the crew is not without fault.
MrPibb@lemmynsfw.com 5 months ago
[deleted]4am@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Held without trial and modern America. Name a more iconic duo, I’ll wait.
protist@mander.xyz 5 months ago
For someone with such strong opinions about this, I don’t think you know much about the operation of cargo ships…
Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Innocent until proven guilty
FollyDolly@lemmy.world 5 months ago
As far as I know, the crew did everything correctly, including alerting authorities to shut down traffic to the bridge. The one at fault here is the owner of the ship, who was deliberately forgoing repairs to squeeze out as much profit as possible.
metaStatic@kbin.social 5 months ago
capitalism wins again
grue@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Well, everything except going on strike and refusing to set sail until the ship was maintained properly, at least…