The only two actual rules that apply to four way stops is everyone stops and the first person to start moving gets the right of way. All that crap about the first arrival or person to the right doesn’t get applied in real life. They’re noble ideas, but just fucking go if no one else is.
Comment on xkcd #2932: Driving PSA
Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Nothing gets me closer to road rage than people waving me on when they have the right of way at a four way stop. Like yes thank you that’s very polite, but we both could’ve been through this intersection if you’d gone when you were supposed to.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 months ago
deweydecibel@lemmy.world 4 months ago
All that crap about the first arrival or person to the right doesn’t get applied in real life.
What the hell are you talking about? People obey the first to stop first pull out rule all the damn time.
JonEFive@midwest.social 4 months ago
Yes, but there are also a lot of times where they don’t in my personal experience. If there’s a question about who technically got there first - like two cars approach at roughly the same time - the rules aren’t always followed as written by other drivers.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Not in my experience. Of course, as long as people are actually stopping, someone already stopped has an advantage. But that’s a difference between East and West Coast US driving. In the East people come to a complete stop before moving again. In the West they’ll slow down a lot, nearly stop even. So there’s definitely regional characteristics. But the most common law is that of our childhood, possession is 9/10ths of the law.
KroninJ@lemmy.world 4 months ago
First to stop is the safer option. I feel that most people around here follow that too.
It also has a rare benefit of seeing the interaction between a majority first-to-goers at a 4 way.
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Yeah this comment should not be so far in the negatives. I much prefer calling someone a dickhead for going before their turn than screaming “YOU HAVE RIGHT OF WAY” at some dipshit who’s holding up traffic because they feel like being nice
Cryophilia@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Found the Cali driver
JonEFive@midwest.social 4 months ago
Growing up, there was a four-way stop near my house that one of my friends absolutely hated. It was a pretty busy intersection, and he hated that drivers didn’t seem to follow the rules that the person to the right goes first or whatever.
One time when I was driving, he was shocked like “what are you doing!? Its not your turn, you’re gonna cause an accident!” when I went. I was like “what are you talking about?” I had driven through that intersection hundreds of times and never really thought about it. When I payed attention to the way the intersection flowed, I figured out the unwritten understanding that I and everyone else approached it with. It was basically just “stop and wait for a car or two to go before proceeding”. There was no guaranteed order that I could come up with, it was just that everyone in the area seemed to understand.
Written rules are great if everyone is following the written rules. If you follow the written rules at that intersection you’ll be fine, but you’re likely to annoy someone for a moment. Nobody is going to be confused if you wait, just impatient.
I agree with you. More important than following rules is to pay attention and adapt as appropriate. If you’re the only one following the written rules, there’s a chance that you’re the one acting unpredictably.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Yeah the written rules seem logical. But they just don’t match with human behavior.
waz@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I try to never use “the finger” when another driver is being an ass. In that case I always just give them a thumbs down and a sad face.
I save the middke finger for people who are being “nice”, especially when it is making things dangerous. I find it is the quickest way get them to just go.
I try to be coniderate while driving, but I believe being predictable is safe. Deviating from the rules is dangerous.
IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I’ve never thought about giving drivers like this the finger, but I’m absolutely going to from now on.
It’s not being ‘nice’. It’s dangerous. That’s deserving of a middle finger.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
And it gets them to stop doing it. There’s no “oh don’t worry I’m good” that they listen to.