Comment on TikTok sues the US government over ban

• DrDeadCrash@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Access to the data it’s what matters, ownership is just one method of access.

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  • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If this were true, it wouldn’t matter that the US set up the social security number system, because Experian leaked millions of Americans’ SSNs.

    It obviously matters who owns a service that millions of citizens use from a country that is a political rival. You’re just hoping to shut down any conversation against TikTok with a whataboutism

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    • DrDeadCrash@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We’re talking about individuals’ personal data stored by social media companies being accessible to others (governments, in this case). This has nothing to do with social security.

      The problem is that the data is accessable, but that’s not being addressed. This is an improper fix to an actual problem, just facts.

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      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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      • tborders@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        When signing up for a tik-tok account, I put in a birth date, a username, an email address for verifcation and that was it. I didn’t need to provide a drivers license, verify that the name I put in was my actual name, that the birth date was my actual birth date. Location isn’t allowed nor was it requested and neither was Nearby devices. It’s actually been a much better behaved application than any American social media app.

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  • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So Americans having access to American’s Data is bad but you think China having access to American’s Data is good?

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    • DrDeadCrash@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No, they’re both bad.

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      • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Alright, thank you for clarifying that you want more restrictions and laws against these companies, it just seemed odd for you to bring up those other businesses in a post talking about the TikTok forced sale and resulting lawsuit.

        I’m just happy about them restricting US Citizen data being brokered to adversarial nations including Iran, Russia, China, and others.

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• istanbullu@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They don’t need to: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act

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  • UnpluggedFridge@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Requires a warrant or subpoena. That is the difference.

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    • admin@lemmy.my-box.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Also requires the company to be US-based, so doesn’t apply here. Well, not yet, that’s the whole point of forcing them to sell or be banned.

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• dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It doesn’t matter who owns it. It’s the data that the US government is accessing.

  I couldn’t give a shit about TikTok, I’ve never used it in my life. I just think the US should be open and say we are banning this as we don’t have control over it. Sure China is only doing what we are doing but fuck em. I’d respect that.

  Also, it’s got to be about silencing pro-Palestinian rhetoric too.

  If they ban TikTok they should ban FaceBook and Instagram too.

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  • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Also, it’s got to be about silencing pro-Palestinian rhetoric too.

    Yeah trump was talking about banning it in 2020 because he used his time machine to find out what it would be used for in the future. After his harrowing story from the future, I agreed with the effort to ban it because I lOvE gEnOcIdE

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    • dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I refuse to converse with someone who conveys themselves in this manner.

      Be better dude. Manners cost nothing.

      Have a wonderful day!

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      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Whataboutism isn’t the elevated level of discourse you’re pretending it to be

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      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You’re actually just mad you don’t have an actual response to the fact that you making the about Israel/Palestine makes zero sense

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• Mrkawfee@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They don’t need to. Facebook plays ball.

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  • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “if one authoritarian government does surveillance even across borders, why can’t all? Anything less than ‘i agree’ here is hypocrisy!”

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    • PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Noone is saying that. The argument is pretty much that people want more scrutiny applied to other companies beyond tiktok, and ideally not be under constant surveillance by any of them, not that people want to be monitored by all police states equally.

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      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s a whataboutist cop out. People who like tiktok just wanna point out how supposedly since tiktok was targeted, then it’s all in bad faith and therefore there could never possibly be a legit concern with tiktok in particular. Any argument to be addressed with “ChInA bAd”

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