Comment on Western media launders israeli lies to manufacture more consent for Genocide

• Woozythebear@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  In what world is defending yourself from a Genocide a bad thing?

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  • dogsoahC@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It isn’t. But abducting and killing civilians is. Using human shields is. Now, sure, there is a lot of legitimate resentment and anger. And I have complete understanding for parts of the Palestinian population being militant, it’s actually a good thing. And maybe there’s even a point at which actions like the ones Hamas commits are valid. I’m not convinced, but I’m open to the idea. But that doesn’t mean I have to think Hamas are the good guys.

    But again, all that doesn’t make what Israel does any less of a genocide, and it doesn’t make shooting at the human shields any less of a despicable war crime.

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    • NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      But that doesn’t mean I have to think Hamas are the good guys.

      Okay Hamas are not good guys, not at all. While I don't think persecuting war criminals is viable in Gaza even if they wanted to, even setting that aside they have a lot of not very good deeds under their belt. That said, they can't be blamed for taking hostages. It sucks for them and their families, no doubt about that, but on the other hand we have 2mil+ people's lives at stake. The hostages, and the Israeli administration's blatant disregard for their lives, have been a decisive issue in pitting the Israeli public against the government. They're also Hamas's only card in negotiations, or in other words the only currency Hamas has to pay for Gazan lives and "freedom". It sucks that lives are being used as currency, but that's a case of don't blame the player, blame the game. Of course the actual treatment of hostages during and after October 7th is a different story and there's some Hague-worthy nonsense there, but the statement "Hamas took hostages on October 7th" has nothing indictable on its own.

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      • nonailsleft@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        don’t blame the player, blame the game.

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      • dogsoahC@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Well, if you put it like that, fair enough. I hadn’t thought about the hostage situation like that before. thx

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    • Woozythebear@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Oh fuck off you fucking Nazi, human shields my ass… Why does Israel have a military base right next to a fucking shopping mall? It’s because they are using their population as human shields not Hamas.

      Dip shit propaganda eating neo lib nazi

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      • dogsoahC@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Dear Woozythebear,

        I regrettably have to to inform you that you are mistaken in your assessment of me being a nazi. Neither am I neoliberal scum. I am, in fact, a dirty commie and not a supporter of the Israeli apartheid state or their military. I apologize if my comment in any way implied that only one side of a conflict can be guilty of war crimes like the aforementioned human shields. Either way, your highly constructive critcism has been duly noted and I wish you a good day.

        Sincerely dogsoahC

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    • Linkerbaan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Shooting at human shields what?

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      • dogsoahC@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I never looked into the veracity of the human shields claims, since it doesn’t really matter - the IDF is committing the worse crimes either way.

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