The difference is that the CCP has a lot of control over Chinese companies operations.
In the US, the companies have a lot of control over the US government.
Ok that’s an oversimplification, but it sounded good
Comment on Chinese startup launching RISC-V laptop for devs and engineers priced at around $300
hark@lemmy.world 9 months agoI wonder if it’s possible to get a post about technology coming out of China without a “hurr durr they r spy!!1” comment. I don’t see the same every time there’s an article on a new Intel processor, for example.
GeneralVincent@lemmy.world 9 months ago
hark@lemmy.world 9 months ago
fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Incentives vs direct board control Google and Facebook can and have said no before.
Septimaeus@infosec.pub 9 months ago
Is it unwarranted? Have Chinese tech companies turned a new leaf in their collective InfoSec practices?
Conversely, has Intel had a history of consumer privacy violations?
hark@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Intel Management Engine. Do you have an example of Chinese tech spying on consumers for the Chinese government?
Macros@feddit.de 9 months ago
Example from Networking Hardware:
Cisco has had multiple cases where they likely built exploits for Government spyware into their devices. And they have far to many vulnerabilities which are found. This leaves two options: Either their security is so bad that intelligence always has backdoors ready and governments shouldn’t use them, or at least some are backdoors built in accordance to NSA demands and goverments shouldn’t use them. thehackernews.com/2016/08/nsa-hack-exploit.html?m…
On the other hand Huawei, far less security issues, even offered to open their code for checking of backdoors and to let goverments check all updates. They are shunned by western governments and partially even banned.
merthyr1831@lemmy.world 9 months ago
With reddit getting worse, these kinds of vapid “i only post snark about [insert US designated enemy]” users are gonna be all the more common.
retrospectology@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Because China is not a normal country and all of its industry is controlled by the state. It desperately wants the world to forget that its the kind of country that runs over its citizens with tanks, forced labor and has hundreds of concentration camps, but it would be kind of silly to go along with that when it has not changed from that course.
Their long-term plan is to slow boil global opinion through a mass social engineering projects and propaganda into accepting that it’s ok and normal for a government to operate in the way that the CCP does.
As long as the CCP is in power anything it does should should be observed about with a healthy dose of suspicion.
hark@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Meanwhile the US has successfully made people forget about the revelations that Edward Snowden made.
macrocephalic@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The US rolled our democratically elected government in the 70s and we still lick their boots to this day. You’d be forgiven for thinking I was talking about a country in the third world, but I’m talking about Australia.
PrimeMinisterKeyes@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Midnight Oil made a song about it, “Power and the Passion.”
olympicyes@lemmy.world 9 months ago
TIL
Amelia_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
hark@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Yeah, the post is about a new RISC-V laptop and someone came in with "butwhatabout china!!’
jumjummy@lemmy.world 9 months ago
You sound like a tankie. I bet you think the Tik Tok ban is unfair, while staying quiet on any of the dozen+ western companies and platforms that are outright blocked in China.
fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Yeah but whatabout the 30 million people Mao killed
PanArab@lemm.ee 9 months ago
You got them mixed with Israel. From malicious spyware and surveillance to running over civilians with tanks.
retrospectology@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Israel is quite bad, yes, and the genocide is horrible, but I’d argue China is illustrative of what comes after democracy fails in a place and it has passed through the stage that Israel is currently in.
China is a totalitarian state where information is so tightly controlled and the people so thoroughly decieved (or enslaved) that industrialized genocide is carried out at a scale unseen since the Nazis without the general population knowing or even caring.
That kind of “civilized” totalitarianism in which dissent is quite literally not possible is the terminus of any form of facism. When Orwell talked about a boot stamping on a human face forever, that’s what China is.
So no, as bad as Israel is and as much as they need to be confronted and are untrustworthy, China is far worse.
Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Israel and China are both authoritarian shitholes, but China is much worse. Boycott both of them, as well as all the other authoritarian shitholes on this planet
WamGams@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
Tank man was not ran over.