Comment on Windows 11 just isn't enticing Windows 10 users to upgrade, and its market share is actually falling

• Toribor@corndog.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If you primarily game using Steam then it’s easier than ever on most popular distros. Biggest hassle is likely still GPU drivers. I’ve never had any issues there but depending on what card you have you may be better off with either proprietary or FOSS drivers depending on what your distro of choice likes to provide by default. After that most games tend to just work, a handful may require you to pick a beta version of proton or something.

  If you want to try it and don’t want to do a lot of tinkering check out PopOS. It’s probably the friendliest distro for gaming out of the box.

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  • CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Driver installation is really only a hassle for NVIDIA users. AMD and Intel GPUs simply work out of the box on most Linux distros these days (with the main issues being related to using slow moving distros that lack support for the newest hardware). Use a fast moving distro such as Arch and you likely won’t have any issues even with recent GPUs. Hopefully NVK will make the situation for NVIDIA cards better too, been testing it on my laptop and it’s starting to be viable for gaming.

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    • Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It sucks ass. I actually returned my gaming desktop to W11 recently because I suck and my games just stopped launching. Never buying nvidia again, building a new desktop right now to get away from windows again.

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      • CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah, building a new PC without NVIDIA or at least swapping your GPU really is the best solution. The past two years I’ve run an Intel Arc A770 which was rough at first because the drivers were brand new but has been solid for over a year now and then in February or so I upgraded to an AMD Radeon RX 7800XT which has been absolutely amazing with my 4K 144Hz display. My setup before that was a 1080Ti and it was never an enjoyable experience on Linux and I usually gamed on Win10 on it. I haven’t really touched Windows other than a small handful of times on the A770 or 7800XT as Linux runs great on them.

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    • megabyteX@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Arch?!? lol. Terrible advice for a newbie. You are one update away from fscking your system. Better go Fedora/Nobara way. The kernel and drivers will be updated frequently enough. Also, no, propiertary NVIDIA driver installation is not a hassle, Ubuntu/Manjaro and some other friends literally have “wizards” that let you click->click->next the driver.

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  • CallMeButtLove@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’ve heard a lot of people reference PopOS and Garuda as of the last few months but I’ve never heard of them. When you say popular distros I immediately think Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, Suse, etc. Does your comment include those as well or when you say popular do you mean “popular for gaming”? Also how is the Linux support for external controllers?

    To be fair outside of Proxmox and some Debian containers with Docker I haven’t spent much time in the Linux space for the last 7 or 8 years. I’m thinking about finally making the switch.

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    • Toribor@corndog.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Pop_OS is based on Ubuntu. It’s developed by System76 which sells linux laptops that run their distro by default.

      It’s a popular recommendation specifically for people looking out to try gaming on Linux because there are specific features built in like performance improvements for gaming and some gaming-specific packages whereas Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora and OpenSuse are generally designed to be a general purpose distro. Pop_OS delivers packages as flatpacks by default as opposed to Ubuntu’s snaps which are a bit controversial.

      Mostly I recommend Pop_OS for people that are new to Linux, don’t know about why they might prefer one distro over another, and want to try it out with the minimal amount of hassle. If you aren’t gaming Pop_OS is still great but that’s one of it’s selling points.

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    • erwan@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Popular distributions are the one you’re thinking about.

      Some distributions advertise themselves as “gaming oriented” but you don’t need those, generalist distributions work just as well for gaming.

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• fluckx@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The main setup went smooth. I can recommend nobara which is what I used. I tried garuda as well, but it wasn’t my style. Personal preference, no hate :).

  Most steam games work pretty good ( see protondb ). ( make sure to set your steam settings > compatibility to all games ).

  Any game with invasive anti-cheat will likely not work. LoL and valorant come to mind. I think some of the cs2 ones like faceit won’t work on Linux. But standard cs2 and competitive work fine.

  Battle.net gave me some issues on lutris until I forced it to proton.

  Overall I’ve had a good experience. Sometimes a weird issue if I alt tab ( hots ) that it comes back super tiny. I worked around it by running it windowed fullscreen.

  Overall I’ve no regrets so far. I installed nobara and it’s quite user friendly. I’ve never used a fedora distro before ( more extensive experience with xubuntu/Ubuntu/pop ).

  Helldivers 2, heroes of the storm and ff crisis core worked flawlessly.

  Hots needs to run full screen ( windowed ) or alt-tab will make the screen tiny for some reason.

  So far: no regrets.

  When you first play a game it needs to compile the shaders first. So on your initial game there’s a few minutes ramp up time. But any next times you start the game should be fine.

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  • BReel@lemmy.one ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Thank you for mentioning hots, because that’s like the ONE steam game I couldn’t live without. Good to know it’s possible, even if I have to play true full screen vs windowed.

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    • fluckx@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      For hots: install lutris through the nobara app store. Start it and leave it for a few minutes while you run other updates or something ( only the very first time ).

      Go to the settings/preferences, ( three dots top right ), click runners, scroll all the way down to wine.

      Click the cog and change the runtime from wine-… to proton-GE. Thrn you can just install the battle.net app through lutris. From the battle.net app you can install hots.

      Using the built in wine-… Runtime I got errors like missing Microsoft arial or unable to validate certificate.

      with proton it just instantly worked.

      You can also add the battle.net installer as an external steam app and run/install it that way. The only downside would be that you can’t play a steam game AND have bnet running ( which you can through lutris ).

      Exiting battle.net doesn’t seem to be enough to stop lutris running it. So you might have to click the stop button in lutris if you want to restart it.

      Battle.net is a bit wonky. But once you’ve got it IP and running it’s okay.

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      • BReel@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Damn appreciate the details. I’ll def give it a go!

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  • isthingoneventhis@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I have an older GPU (rx 470) and I play games that probably aren’t super new so my main concerns were mainly my tech literacy and fear of fucking something up xD

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    • joe_cool@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      RX470 is fully supported with the latest drivers. Anything from Radeon HD 7000 (GCN2) series from ~10 years ago and newer uses AMDGPU with (almost) all features available. GCN1 is experimental but also works.

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    • fluckx@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I didn’t really do any CLI commands on nobara. So it’s pretty straightforward. I guess the best experience might be with AMD.

      I’m running a ryzen 7 and gtx 2080ti( I think ).

      It’s about 4 years old, but it still gets the job done. I’ve had no gfx issues. Nobara installed the nvidia drivers on its own.

      If you have a spare HD. I’d recommend giving it a try. I ran popos parallel for a short while to try out gaming.

      I was angry and leaped off the deep end. New OS and everything. I have a technical background so with google I probably could save my own ass :D

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  • kennebel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I tried Garuda as well, and was not happy with the hoops I had to go through. I switched to Pop OS, and have had very smooth sailing so far.

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• Statlerwaldorf@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I switched over from Win10 to PopOS! about a month ago. It hasn’t been 100% painless but it’s leaps and bounds better than the last time I tried to switch 5-10 years ago. For reference I’m in an AMD CPU and Nvidia GPU, NVME drives for both the system and game drives, SATA for a data drive, NAS for media. I’ve only reinstalled once because I broke everything tinkering with different desktop environments, but it was an easy recovery with the install media.

  All the correct drivers were installed from the get go. I managed to overwrite my cloud save for Horizon Forbidden West because of an issue mounting my game drive and mapping the correct install location in Steam, but that was 90% on me because I rejected the idea of making a backup copy of the files because “I know what I’m doing”. I ended up wiping my game drive entirely and reformatting it as EXT4 and haven’t had any problems since - the drive was NTFS before and had a handful of games already installed from Windows.

  A couple games require finding the right Proton version to run it, but GE works flawlessly for most things I’ve tried. Everything has run as fast or faster than in Windows with the exception of WH4K: Darktide. There’s some microsecond delay in there somewhere that I couldn’t pin down. Didn’t seem to be video or network related. It’s the kind of thing that I bet I wouldn’t notice if it were my first time playing the game, but since I’ve got a couple hundred hours in it, it is just enough to throw me off and make me feel slightly drunk.

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• ArachnidMania@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Not the original poster, but my experience was fairly smooth. I had minor issues with wifi drivers, and I got a new GPU that had some driver issues because it was pretty recently released (I guess the open source drivers didn’t have time to be updated?) In terms of actual gaming. Basically none, I mainly use steam and proton has been bliss, I’ve bought multiple games without even checking compatibility, and it just works. To my knowledge there is only one old game where the multiplayer doesn’t work, but everything else has been seamless.

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• femtech@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Base Ubuntu with the non snap version of steam has been great. I only play a few games, helldivers, some rouglites, and apex. The thing I miss with windows is HDR and auto HDR. HDR will be added in plasma 6 but I had issues with it on KDE Neon but once it’s on a stable build it will be good.

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