The responsible car makers showing drivers performing stunts well beyond the ability or legality of most drivers?
You’ve got some kind of chip on your shoulder man. It’s a car company, who cares.
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machinin@lemmy.world 6 months agoWhen did I refer to Musk? You must be sensitive.
Yes, when cruise control came out over 100 years ago, there were very little controls. Responsible car makers have changes that. Summer even recently aimed for zero fatalities for people using their cars and the associated technologies.
And there are many cars that keep you from driving into a wall. Maybe, at this point, you can’t keep 100 percent of the idiots from doing something stupid, but responsible car makers do much, much better than Tesla, who actually promotes and markets the actions of idiots abusing the systems in their cars.
root@precious.net 6 months ago
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 6 months ago
No they haven’t. I have take by brand new Audi and drive it straight into a well.
They assist people in driving. You are still driving the car.
Incorrect. Auto pilot is less likely to be in an accident.
www.teslarati.com/…/amp/
machinin@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You think giving me Tesla marketing BS, published by a proxy Tesla marketing rag, is going to convince me? If it is anything else like Tesla’s marketing department, they just pulled something out of their ass, Musk saw the numbers and told them to fudge it some more, and then they put it up on their website dressed in fancy graphs and tech-speak. That’s why you’ll never find any actual data that third-party researchers can verify it with.
You have this article that looked at a four-month period. During that time, Tesla was responsible for every 10 of 11 deaths related to automated driving features. This report states that Tesla has the most accidents of any brand.
Tesla’s create horrible driving habits in their customers. On the one hand, you have the CEO that creates a culture to disregard for safety and rules, praising users that openly go against the terms of use, as long as they show it doing something cool. On the other hand, you have a system that is just good enough to lull you into a sense of safety and confidence in the system itself. Then one day it decides to kill a motorcyclist, a kid getting off the bus, or a paramedic working on the side of the road. The driver that maybe praised Tesla to their friends and colleagues about how amazing it was is now dumbstruck because the car acted so unexpectedly.
Tesla is just as much as fault as the driver for that situation.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 6 months ago
machinin@lemmy.world 6 months ago
So you do you think Tesla’s crash at a higher rate? I think it’s a combination of instant acceleration, poor sensor-suite (like the lack of radar), and Tesla giving idiots free-reign to abuse the system as they please.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Dude, I was literally in another thread where someone posted a video talking about how many deaths FSD caused (17) and extrapolating those numbers by how many FSD miles were driven lead to fsd being 11x more dangerous than a humans driver.
It had all sorts of upvotes.
Except, those accidents were on AP which has multiple billions of miles driven, not FSD. The NHSTA has only said there was 1 fsd related death.
They don’t even know what they’re mad about.
I bet they’ve never seen, used, or had to acknowledge the warnings prior to using AP.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Here, you will see ford is under investigation for its system
techcrunch.com/…/ford-bluecruise-investigation-nh….
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 6 months ago
People confuse auto pilot with full self driving. They are very different. AP is just assisted cruise control. I’ve had very few issues with it. Compared to my Audi, I love the Tesla AP.
Fsd is another beast. I have not tried 12 yet