Comment on Lawsuits test Tesla claim that drivers are solely responsible for crashes
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 4 months ago
I would say depends. If the user was using the feature correctly then Tesla should have some liability.
Most of the crashes I’ve seen the people were not using the feature correctly.
kbin_space_program@kbin.run 4 months ago
They might be using it how Tesla markets it.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 4 months ago
No, the majority of crashes I’ve seen. Nowhere does the marketing say read your email and take you hands off the wheel.
machinin@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Musk’s retweet of the people have sex on autopilot with the cute little joke is Tesla marketing.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Fsd is really sketchy. It either works like a dream or wants to kill you. It’s why you have to agree to a disclaimer when using it otherwise it’ll disable.
Autopilot if a fancy cruise control. It’s pretty solid but appears to have an issue with fire trucks. I know of one fatal accident where it drove into a firetruck without enough time to react. Tesla should be liable for that. Their product failed and they removed the radar that would have prevented that scenario.
I haven’t seen the video you are mentioning. It would be stupid for them to market that as a current feature. You must keep your hands on the wheel at all times in fsd. It might accelerate you full speed into oncoming traffic and the car is fast
ShepherdPie@midwest.social 4 months ago
Why do you assume everyone follows Musks words as much as you do?
kbin_space_program@kbin.run 4 months ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlThdr3O5Qo
A 2 minute long video of a tesla showing self driving in traffic where the driver isnt touching the wheel. From Tesla and on their official channel.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 4 months ago
That is a full self driving demo and has nothing to do with the Accidents. Full self driving and auto pilot are two different things. When you sign up for fsd you agree to not take your hands off the wheel and pay extra attention. Most of the accidents are autopilot which is enhanced cruise control.
deranger@lemmy.world 4 months ago
So I assume autopilot disconnects as soon as you take your hands off the wheel, or there’s iris tracking to ensure you’re looking at the road? It’s not like either of these is exotic technology.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 4 months ago
It does both. Not immediacy but after about 30 seconds.
Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Elon Musk claimed that full self driving would be ready in 2017!!
So how many false claims by Elon Musk does it take for someone to think the car can handle trivial situations?
Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 4 months ago
The vehicle prompts you to keep your eyes on the road and be prepaired to take over at any moment every single time you enable this feature. To pretend that Tesla drivers don’t know this “because of false advertising” is just as fasle as the advertising itself.
machinin@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Tesla marketing is their chief marketer retweeting videos of people having sex on autopilot and making jokes about it, or the doctored video on their website where the driver spends the whole drive without touching the steering wheel, or the Tesla’s CEO driving around in a news interview with his hands of the wheel fort much of the ride, or promoting influencer videos that don’t follow that guidance.
kbin_space_program@kbin.run 4 months ago
Does it now:
https://youtube.com/shorts/K1-d41I84kQ?si=1ZXxcrTjkyVtb_90
AA5B@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Yes it does. I don’t know how that ragebait video is supposed to prove otherwise.
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