Comment on The walls of Apple’s garden are tumbling down

• southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yeah, they won’t let anyone else profit off of their user’s information. They’ll do it, but nobody else can.

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  • bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Say what you will about Apple, they are masters of spinning their shortcomings as groundbreaking achievements. When they refused to unlock the iPhone of the san bernardino terrorist attack, it was framed as an act of preserving user privacy, but brushed over how willing they were to hand over the iCloud backups if the police would have brought the iPhone to a known WiFi network for the backup to be uploaded.

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  • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They don’t profit off of user information. It’s against their privacy policy. Ask for your GDPR compliant file from Apple. It’ll contain your name, billing address, and phone number (if you have an iPhone).

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    • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Privacy policies are toilet paper without independent audits and the axillary ability to access source code.

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      • chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        💯

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  • chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    exactly!

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• chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  do you really trust them?

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  • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t need to. It’s visible in their software. It runs on a UNIX kernel, so the application and operating system layers are independent. They restrict all APIs, both first and third-party, until a request to access has been approved by the user. The encryption they use for iCloud and iMessage transmission is end-to-end, and local device encryption is hardware encoded, requiring local passcode entry to decrypt.

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    • chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      their code is proprietary so you cannot check their claims

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      • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Tell that to jailbreakers. Lol

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• baseless_discourse@mander.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What industry? Does this industry you mentioned happens only contains data hungry ad oligopolies like google amazon, but not all the reasonable alternatives like duckduckgo, grapheneos, calyxos, desktop linux, mastodon, and lemmy?

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  • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The consumer personal computer industry.

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    • baseless_discourse@mander.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I got a feeling that many consumers do use desktop linux, given he recently revealed 4% desktop market share across the world. macOS has 15% market share, and Windows at the dominant 72%.

      I believe macOS probably is more private than Windows, but it is definitely not as private as the rest of the market.

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      • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Sure, open source will always have the potential for the most privacy, assuming the user is savvy enough to maintain security. The article was primarily focused on Apple’s hold of the smartphone market. In the US, the only real competition is Android. Google is transparent about their consumer data use, and they also don’t offer much in the form of personal information privacy outside of encrypted RCS. For example, third-party apps can access user data and enable hardware APIs without first requiring user permission.

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