Comment on The walls of Apple’s garden are tumbling down

• disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yes. Apple is acclaimed for their commitment to privacy.

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  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah, they won’t let anyone else profit off of their user’s information. They’ll do it, but nobody else can.

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    • bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Say what you will about Apple, they are masters of spinning their shortcomings as groundbreaking achievements. When they refused to unlock the iPhone of the san bernardino terrorist attack, it was framed as an act of preserving user privacy, but brushed over how willing they were to hand over the iCloud backups if the police would have brought the iPhone to a known WiFi network for the backup to be uploaded.

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    • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They don’t profit off of user information. It’s against their privacy policy. Ask for your GDPR compliant file from Apple. It’ll contain your name, billing address, and phone number (if you have an iPhone).

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      • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Privacy policies are toilet paper without independent audits and the axillary ability to access source code.

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    • chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      exactly!

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  • chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    do you really trust them?

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    • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t need to. It’s visible in their software. It runs on a UNIX kernel, so the application and operating system layers are independent. They restrict all APIs, both first and third-party, until a request to access has been approved by the user. The encryption they use for iCloud and iMessage transmission is end-to-end, and local device encryption is hardware encoded, requiring local passcode entry to decrypt.

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      • chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        their code is proprietary so you cannot check their claims

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  • baseless_discourse@mander.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What industry? Does this industry you mentioned happens only contains data hungry ad oligopolies like google amazon, but not all the reasonable alternatives like duckduckgo, grapheneos, calyxos, desktop linux, mastodon, and lemmy?

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    • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The consumer personal computer industry.

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      • baseless_discourse@mander.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I got a feeling that many consumers do use desktop linux, given he recently revealed 4% desktop market share across the world. macOS has 15% market share, and Windows at the dominant 72%.

        I believe macOS probably is more private than Windows, but it is definitely not as private as the rest of the market.

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