Comment on The walls of Apple’s garden are tumbling down
disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The “walled garden” is both what the average Apple customer wants, and what technophiles despise. Most iPhone users want the full assurance that they can download any app without performing research, knowing it won’t crash their indispensable device or track their every move. Say what you want about the limits of customization, it’s probably true, but Apple’s tight leash on software is precisely why iPhone is so reliable and private.
It’s interesting, because for my iPhone that is true. I was a bit concerned with the walled garden, but made the switch from Android because of privacy (not that Apple is perfect, just much better than Google). I can’t recall a single time when i wanted or needed more than what the iPhone offered.
But with my iPad there are multiple times when i wished i could run a local web dev environment, or run MacOS apps (it is using the save M1 as my computer after all)
Agreed. I’m hoping the move to M chips for iPad Pro will come with some macOS software compatibility in the future.
What about discovering and installing private app that don’t use proprietary big tech service, including sending push notifications?
i used fdroid when i used Android, but now i feel like it is a false sense of security. like, yeah, the apps themselves might not have telemetry, but the whole OS itself is a giant spyware made by the largest ad company in the world, so unless you are using a rooted, custom rom that has taken all the google apis out of the way, i still feel that my data is safer in ios than android with fdroid. the only real way to have data fully safe is too minimize the use of apps completely thou
i would use apps from an ios version of fdriod, if i had the chance, thou, so i think your point is valid
I think it is useful to use fdroid in conjunction with private OS like graphene, divest and calyx all with excellent android compatibilities. Unfortunately, grapheneos, IMO the best of the three, is only avaliable on a small set of devices, like iPhone.
But I do agree with your point, if you use the stock OS, even with privacy hardening, it is probably still not so private. But I don’t know if a hardened stock android is “worse” than an average user’s iPhone.
I don’t totally agree but you’re definitely onto something there. I will absolutely never be simpathetic to that vision, but you’re right that Apple knows their audience.
If you throw a linux OS to an average person, they won’t want to download app from app store.
Average user don’t “want” to download app from the app store, they do that because they are “told” to do so. I don’t believe average Apple user “love” anything, they are merely following how they first learned to use a device.
I think one of the best decision apple has ever made is to start shitty and thus never enshittify. After a while, people accepted the shittiness of apple; yet Windows continuing to enshittify by putting ads everywhere, thus people feel like their old and good experiences have been taken away from them.
chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
private, bro? are u kidding me?
disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yes. Apple is acclaimed for their commitment to privacy.
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Yeah, they won’t let anyone else profit off of their user’s information. They’ll do it, but nobody else can.
bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
Say what you will about Apple, they are masters of spinning their shortcomings as groundbreaking achievements. When they refused to unlock the iPhone of the san bernardino terrorist attack, it was framed as an act of preserving user privacy, but brushed over how willing they were to hand over the iCloud backups if the police would have brought the iPhone to a known WiFi network for the backup to be uploaded.
disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 6 months ago
They don’t profit off of user information. It’s against their privacy policy. Ask for your GDPR compliant file from Apple. It’ll contain your name, billing address, and phone number (if you have an iPhone).
chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
exactly!
chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
do you really trust them?
disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I don’t need to. It’s visible in their software. It runs on a UNIX kernel, so the application and operating system layers are independent. They restrict all APIs, both first and third-party, until a request to access has been approved by the user. The encryption they use for iCloud and iMessage transmission is end-to-end, and local device encryption is hardware encoded, requiring local passcode entry to decrypt.
baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 6 months ago
What industry? Does this industry you mentioned happens only contains data hungry ad oligopolies like google amazon, but not all the reasonable alternatives like duckduckgo, grapheneos, calyxos, desktop linux, mastodon, and lemmy?
disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The consumer personal computer industry.