Thanks, I thought that was the “doki dori literature group” (spelling?) (a game I hadn’t played but know of), was it co-opted or were there always 2 meanings, or did the game play off of the community?
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casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks agoIf you classify erotic roleplay as CSAM, then there is a whole sprawling community called DDLG that belongs on the sex offenders registry.
Noncon is similarly a much more prevalent fetish than people think.
The only difference between this debate and the traditional porn counterpart is that traditional video porn has always had actors who are verifiably of-age and consenting, despite whatever the roleplay may imply. With drawn and written erotica, there is no actor, it’s all text coming from imagination and how you interpret it is a function of both the reader’s and author’s imagination. What it depicts means virtually nothing and outlawing it means making it a thoughtcrime, which is a Pandora’s box you do not want opened.
Donjuanme@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Kedly@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Doki Doki Literature Glub
Donjuanme@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Bwahaha, thanks! It’s now forever engrained properly in my mind
Kedly@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
xD No worries, my mind went to Doki Doki first, so you gave me an excuse to say the cursed fish version =P
casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
You’re thinking of Doki Doki Literature Club, common mistake. It’s just a coincidence I suppose. DDLG most certainly predates that game and I don’t think their subject matter is at all related.
On the tame side of things, there’s chicks that like to call you “daddy” and want you to call them a “good/naughty little girl” and embrace the praise&punishment aspect of Dominance& Submission. Pretty vanilla stuff. I could get with it, and I reckon most guys may be able to, feels like the daddy thing isn’t too uncommon.
On other end… well, actually, I don’t want to talk about it. Look it up yourself, that way only you are to blame for cursing yourself with the knowledge
Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I appreciate your comment, I never want to Google this stuff myself.
Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I think you misunderstood…the only AI porn I’ve heard anyone make a stink about is AI CSAM and deep fakes of celebrities or, again, children. I don’t care about consenting adults pretending to be younger or nonconsent play.
Making realistic AI porn of people without their consent isn’t ok. Normalizing CSAM or making it harder to find and prosecute real CSAM producers isn’t ok either. Making AI porn using the likeness of real children isn’t ok. Those are the only complaints I’ve heard on the topic, and I agree with them. If there’s other things people are screaming about, I’m OOL, which was the question I originally asked.
casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Ok good, so we’re on the same page. I just had to disambiguate because it was getting to that “wrongful grouping” territory.
But yeah something 100% needs to be done about the models people are training for celebrity and minor likenesses. I saw one model for the latter gaining popularity and I threw up a little in my mouth because the aesthetic they were going for was not okay and made me very concerned. I want to see these get action’d/desisted, but I also want assurance that they won’t drag us innocent pervs who just want stories and pictures of lewd foxgirls n shit to get caught in the crossfire for no good reason. Same thing all us weebs have been saying for years, just new chapter with heightened risks.
Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Unfortunately there’s no middleman with them. They’ll make rules that apply to Ai csam but that could also apply to any other Ai porn so they have it in their back pocket if they need it.
casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
*middle ground
And yes, that is exactly what I expect them to do. I just hope everyone is as wary of it.
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