Not everyone’s got the capability to make up for the lost utility in the tool themselves. Should they just go fuck themselves?
Comment on The Man Who Killed Google Search
BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 2 months ago
The amount sadness for the loss of Google Search accuracy due to ad infiltration the author writes here shows how much of a corporate brand dick rider a lot of people are.
These corporations do not give a fuck about you, so mourning their loss is so pathetic.
No one cares Google sucks now. If you do, go get a fucking life. Move on. They won’t care if you’re dead, why do you cry when these corporations die?
SloppySol@lemm.ee 2 months ago
BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 2 months ago
Yes, SloppySol, they should indeed go fuck themselves.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Ah. Well.
There it tis.
ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I’m not sad that Google turned out to be evil because I care about Google. I don’t care about Google. I’m disappointed in no longer being able to search for and find the things online on any search engine.
someguy3@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Maybe because it’s hard to find stuff now? I don’t care about the company.
hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Right, so with all me very specific troubleshooting questions I should go where exactly?
Ecosia? Very limited search results Yandex? More obscure results, probably not what I’m looking for Bing? Ok on general stuff, not great on very specific questions Yahoo? Never tried it, heard the enshittification has become bad Duckduckgo and similar? Proxying Google
There is no way to get around Google. Everything else is either highly specialized, very limited or unusable in general.
Also feel free to chime in with your experience, I’m so down to hear what everyone has to say.
z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
I’m pretty sure Duckduckgo proxies Bing, not Google.
SleepyWheel@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I’ve been enjoying Kagi, although it also proxies google and others, and you have to pay for it, and I was dismayed to read on Lemmy recently that the CEO may be a sea lion. So yeah, the search for good search continues I suppose
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
hackers.town/@lori/112255132348604770
For folks not understanding the sealioning reference.
d-shoot.net/files/kagiemails.txt
I think this is petty and sad behavior from the CEO of a company and I think this is a man that does not understand boundaries at ALL.
And you know what I truly believe? I already thought this before based on seeing his responses to feedback, but I believe it a thousand times more now that I’ve been on the receiving end: I think it genuinely eats him alive that someone doesn’t agree with him or doesn’t think he’s doing great work, and he also truly believes that if he can just keep explaining himself to them they’ll OBVIOUSLY see it his way. He cannot accept that someone might think Kagi sucks, to the point where he has to reach out to someone like me to try to argue them into Thinking Correctly.
redcalcium@lemmy.institute 2 months ago
Just for some perspective, if you want to know how little reach the fedi post with the link to this blog post got: the first post in this thread already has more likes and boosts after less than a hour since posting it than my blog post ever did that he felt the need to confront me over.
The author is probably weren’t aware that their blog post get a huge engagement on hacker news and the ceo got a lot of flak there, which was probably why he felt the need to reach out and “correct” the author.
redcalcium@lemmy.institute 2 months ago
As a concept, paid search engines is actually a good idea. It incentivize the company to produce great result so their users won’t search over and over (which reduce their profit), unlike google which incentivize to reduce search quality so their users have to search over and over and see more ads (per the article). If it’s not kagi, I hope other paid search engines start to appear in this space. Indexing the web is expensive, and after seeing what happened with google, it’s clear that free ad-suported search engine is not the way to go now.
jqubed@lemmy.world 2 months ago
There’s an awful lot of things where if the incentives were to keep paying users happy instead of keeping advertisers happy we would see very different results from the service. Unfortunately, for an awful lot of these services people don’t want to pay for them, or at least don’t want to pay what it costs to make them financially viable.
AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 months ago
Searx exists and is decentralized although as for the quality of results that’s up in the air
BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 2 months ago
DDG proxies Bing you silly fuck
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
It’s not just google that sucks. All of the rest have tanked/sucked ass to begin with.
frezik@midwest.social 2 months ago
No one cares Google sucks now. If you do, go get a fucking life.
Dude, no. Having good search results matter. People are directly influenced by what comes out at the top of search results. Finding a good reference makes the difference between a well sourced claim and just talking out of your ass. It absolutely has an effect on public discourse at large.
BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 2 months ago
Google was so good at it for so long that we’re now kinda lost.
Then either adapt or die. Move on to another search engine, host your own, use an AI LLM or go to the fucking library.
Complaining to a corporation doesn’t do shit unless you affect their bottom line. And so far all these articles and message boards with losers complaining about this have done nothing to slow it down or reverse Google’s trajectory.
frezik@midwest.social 2 months ago
You say that because it’s clear you have no fucking clue how difficult a problem this is. This isn’t something you can do overnight, and I’m not even sure a self-hosted solution is possible.
BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 2 months ago
I’m not even sure a self-hosted solution is possible.
You say that, but it’s clear you have no fucking clue how easy a solution is.
demonsword@lemmy.world 2 months ago
No one cares Google sucks now
It used to help me greatly at my job (software development). I’m using mostly DDG as a replacement but it just isn’t even close to what Google used to be years ago.
Wiggums@lemmy.world 2 months ago
it’s not that the company died, it’s that collective progress was sacrificed for greed.