on a phone? Why the fuck would anyone be running virtual machines on a phone?
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greedytacothief@lemmy.world 7 months agoIs this bait? Because like, you could be rendering, simulating, running virtual machines. Lots of stuff that aren’t web browsers also eat ram
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
dustyData@lemmy.world 7 months ago
My man, have you been to selfhosted. People are using smart phones for all kinds of crazy stuff. They are basically mini ARM computers.
pythonoob@programming.dev 7 months ago
Something like the Samsung Dex app that basically turns your phone into a mini computer with kbm and a monitor wouldn’t bee too bad tbh for most people. Take all your shit with you in your pocket and dock it at home or at work or whatever.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
yeah, i literally selfhost a server, running like 8 different services. I’m quite acclimated to it by now. Using a phone for this kind of thing is the wrong device. A chromebook is going to be a better alternative. You can probably get those cheaper anyway.
A big problem with phones is that they just aren’t really designed for that kind of thing, you leave a phone plugged in constantly and it’s going to spicy pillow itself. Let alone even trying to do that on something that isn’t an android. I cannot imagine the hell that self hosting on an android would be, let alone on an iphone.
I could see a usecase for it as a network relay in the event that you need a hyper portable node or something. GLHF with the dongling if you need those.
Unfortunately, if you already have a server, it’s going to be better to just spin up a new task on that server, as the cost of running a new device is going to outweight the cost of just using an existing one that’s already running. Also, you can get stuff like a raspi or le potato for pretty cheap also. not very powerful, but probably more utility, especially given the IO.
dustyData@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Yeah, god forbids anyone ever does anything subpar or worse…for fun 😱
AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It sounds a lot more cost effective to get a used mini-pc than a flagship phone for any sort of server stuff.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
literally this, anything other than a phone is going to be more purpose suited. cheaper, and probably more versatile. You’re spending money on a really expensive screen that you are literally not going to be using. You might as well buy something with a shitty screen, or none at all.
greedytacothief@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Does the JVM count?
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
thats really funny, but no.
AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 7 months ago
you could be rendering, simulating, running virtual machines
On a phone? I guess you could, although 4gb is probably enough for any video game that any amount of people use.
woelkchen@lemmy.world 7 months ago
People use phone apps for photo and video editing these days. The common TikTok kid out there doesn’t use Adobe Premiere on a desktop workstation.
Phone apps often are desktop applications with a specialized GUI these days.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
i mean yeah, but even then those are significant filters, and what makes you think that tiktok isn’t running a render farm somewhere in china to collect shit tons of data? They’re already collecting the data, might as well provide a rendering service to make the UI nicer, but i don’t use tiktok so don’t quote me on it.
woelkchen@lemmy.world 7 months ago
i mean yeah, but even then those aren’t significant filters, and what makes you think that tiktok isn’t running a render farm somewhere in china to collect shit tons of data?
Pretty sure my Adobe Premiere comparison made it clear I wasn’t talking about the TikTok app itself but 3rd party apps to later upload to online services like TikTok.
Just because you are completely inapt to think of use cases, doesn’t mean they don’t exist.
RippleEffect@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Web browsers also eat ram.
greedytacothief@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I was trying to mention things that weren’t just web browsers. Since it seemed the comment was about programs that use more ram than they seemingly need to.
RippleEffect@lemm.ee 7 months ago
And games!
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
games are probably a better argument honestly, but even at that point, it’s not a really good experience. Unless you buy a gaming phone, which i guess is an option. Regardless the mobile gaming market is actually vile.
AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 7 months ago
No, the photogrammetry apps all use cloud processing. The LIDAR ones don’t, but that’s only for Apple phones and the actual mesh quality is pretty bad.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
i suppose photo editing would be one? Maybe? I’m not sure how advanced photo editing would be on mobile, it’s not like you’re going to load up the entirety of GIMP or something.
As for photogrammetry, i’m not sure that would consume very much ram. It could, i honestly don’t think it would be that significant.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
90% of which can be paged in the background, it’s not like most people are chronically browsing the web on their phones.
woelkchen@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Yes, they do.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
and it’s also the worst place to do that. If you’re going to be chronically online like me, you should at least give it clear boundaries between something you carry on you at all times, and something that you regularly have access to, like my workstation for instance.
Unless you like being horribly depressed or something.