Comment on Later generations will have less attachment to how things were when they grew up because everything changes a lot faster.

givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• waterore@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The changes in technology from 1984 to 2004 is mind boggling fast when compared to the minimal changes between 2004 to 2024

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  • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You’d have to go pretty far back to see things change slower over 20 years than 04-24.

    I think OP is just confusing hype for reality, or just isn’t old enough to know what it was like more than a decade ago.

    It’s the only way their post makes sense, and if they aren’t going to clarify that’s what we have to assume

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• TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Since 2004, we got smartphones which replaced a huge chunk of technology, internet has become far faster and more accessible leading to streaming services like Netflix and freelance video platforms like YouTube exploding, far fewer people having cable TV, kids growing up with online video rather than TV, social media went from simple platforms meant for communication with friends and family to behemoths meant to capture as much of your attention as possible, misinformation has become more trustworthy to many than traditional news, public school classrooms gained access to technology like Duolingo as learning aids, physical media has been phased out in basically all homes except those with video game consoles, software purchases have been replaced with subscriptions, and now we have programs that can create realistic-looking images and videos, human-like passages, and real-sounding speech.

  Saying that none of that is as groundbreaking as the Internet is kinda like saying the Internet wasn’t as groundbreaking as electricity. Just because the effects are subtle doesn’t make it any less groundbreaking.

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  • entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I agree with the vast majority of your comment, but this irked me a little:

    Just because the effects are subtle doesn’t make it any less groundbreaking.

    Here’s the definition of the word groundbreaking, per the Cambridge Dictionary:

    If something is groundbreaking, it is very new and a big change from other things of its type

    Much of the changes you describe are big improvements that happened gradually over time. I would describe those as iterative improvements, not groundbreaking besides the notable exception of the AI explosion of the past 3-4 years.

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• intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If you don’t think AI has changed recently I don’t think I can give you any evidence that you’re wrong.

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  • vrek@programming.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ai may of changed but life hasn’t changed due to Ai.

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    • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We’re already seeing mass layoffs. You might not have realized if yet, but there’s now more competition for your job, as people in jobs easily replaced or minimized by LLMs are now considering what to try and do next.

      Even if your job simply cannot be done by AI, that state is temporary, and it can be done by all the people who will become jobless because their old job can be done by AI.

      I’m feeling rather snooty tonight so I’ll go ahead and quote Bob Dylan:

      Come gather ‘round people
      Wherever you roam
      And admit that the waters
      Around you have grown
      And accept it that soon
      You’ll be drenched to the bone
      If your time to you is worth savin’
      And you better start swimmin’
      Or you’ll sink like a stone
      For the times they are a-changin’

      There will be a way through this, but it will mean either the extinction and creation of many job species resulting in a change in how we spend our days which is a huge component of life (consider a textile worker versus an uber driver as jobs and hence lifestyles), or it will mean the introduction of UBI, or both. And that’s all massive change.

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  • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t think I can give you any evidence

    Inside the ramblings of every AI bro, is always a kernal of truth…

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    • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Do you really believe, in your heart of hearts, that using a dismissive term actually closes a topic?

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  • BakerBagel@midwest.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I work a factory job and watch baseball ain my free time. What has ChatGPT done that has actually changed anything?

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    • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Perhaps some things other than your factory job and baseball? Just a thought

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      • BakerBagel@midwest.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Very interesting that you don’t have any examples. The only actually useful things i have seen LLM’s do is potentially translate ancient documents and work towards translations between unrelated language groups. Other than that i have seem zero actual societal improvements from anything tech bros call “AI”. It is only the next hype bubble all the crypto bros have moved onto

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      • Arbiter@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Why can’t it play baseball?

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    • mojo_raisin@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Such a blissful comment.

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• sbv@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  20 years ago most people had cellphones, laptops, and social media.

  Not in my social circle. We’re middle class Canadian. People had phones, but they were used almost entirely for interpersonal messaging.

  I feel like the pairing of social media and cell phones really came about around 2010 or a bit later. Services that always had new content, provided social scoring/klout, and were available in the palm of your hand were newer.

  If we go back thirty years, there were plenty of precursors but nothing with broad penetration in society.

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  • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    20 years ago most people had cellphones, laptops, and social media.

    Right, and now we have “phones” with zero buttons, microscopic pixels, speech recognition, facial recognition, real time editing of video calls to make you look like a cartoon dog, games, dead reckoning and GPS navigation, artificial intelligence that can help you start a religion or plan a wedding, show you a graph of how much you’ve walked over the last twelve months on an hour by hour basis without you even knowing it was doing so, take slow motion videos in super HD that a sports network would have paid a hundred million dollars for twenty years ago, show you satellite imagery of any point on the planet, or a 3D model of the city you’re in including the buildings, start your car remotely, translate text in front of you like a magic window, warn you when you might be in danger of a fall based on detecting variations in the motion of your pocket as you walk, play first person shooters using realistic weaponry from WW2 with people in your neighborhood, show you a sequence of people in your area who might want to fuck and set you in a chat with the ones you mutually like, order a car and let you specify the temperature and music selection of that car before it arrives, ssh into any server on the internet, pay for tolls without slowing down (thanks AT&T, you were right), open your front door or give you a view through the security cameras in your house, present video games for your fucking cat to play when it’s bored, like, authenticate using a 3D model of your head that it, itself, generated based on like ten seconds of observing your face, survive being fully submerged in water, charge without connecting any wires … it is utter nonsense to say not much has changed in twenty years because — get this — we had pocket phones back then too.

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• 1984@lemmy.today ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You talk about technology but what’s really changing is how much worse the culture becomes. We have some kind of a monoculture now with total groupthink.

  Younger people don’t notice this I guess. :)

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