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themeatbridge@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

First of all, fuck off with that “science isn’t settled” bullshit. You’re not hiding your agenda at all.

Second, fuck you. People die from COVID. Wearing a mask was the absolute barest minimum of common courtesy, and your lot bitched and moaned like you were neing forced to walk on Legos.

Third, go fuck yourself. There were no mask mandates. None. Hospitals, airports, and private businesses required them for obvious reasons but at no point was the government mandating masks. The CDC recommended wearing masks, and the anti-reality crowd flipped their collective shit.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to point our all the reasons your argument is bad and why you should feel bad for making them. You’re a piece of shit, and your stupidity contributed to countless deaths. Your ideas are a virus of stupidity, and the kindest thing anyone thinks about you is that you’re just a moron who has fallen for a grift. Everyone who isn’t a piece of shit hates you.

Go away.

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Anticorp@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

and your stupidity contributed to countless deaths

It’s pretty countable. 1,187,509 deaths at the time of this comment. You made valid points, but were all of the personal attacks necessary?

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- airrow@hilariouschaos.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I think our side would deny those deaths could possibly be attributed to covid (how would anyone check these stats?). Contrarily, many would point out the adverse effects from taking the “vax” as reported on VAERS
  
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  - Anticorp@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    You seem like you enjoy research, you should go look up how causes of death are determined, and how vaccine efficacy is calculated. We’ve had this stuff figured out for over a hundred years now. Going backwards is not only unnecessary, it’s foolish, and destructive.
    
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    airrow@hilariouschaos.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Have you done research on this? Sanitation was thought to do more to prevent disease than vaccines:
    
    Vaccines get all the glory, but most plumbers will tell you that it was water infrastructure – sewage systems and clean water – that eradicated disease, and they’re right.
    
    organiclifestylemagazine.com/how-plumbing-not-vac…
    
    The questionable experimental “covid vax” fanned the flames of skepticism towards all vaccines
    
    Prior to “covid”, it was reported the flu shot was the least effective in recent years
    
    We could circle back to a lot of proven medical actions. A lot of deaths attributed to “covid” were with people who had additional issues like obesity, were smoking, or elderly, vitamin D deficient. So get people to lose weight and make sure they have vitamin D and quarantine the elderly. Many actionable items that were conveniently ignored, since they could make lots of money pushing a “vaccine” to swindle the population out of money. That is another thing, how the “vaccine” was paid for by tax dollars, rather than the people who wanted them. Problem after problem…
    
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airrow@hilariouschaos.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

agenda

I think it’s an equal opportunity, your side doesn’t hesitate to push its agenda. We disagree. Ok. So can we come to agreement on which view is correct? We are about as confident as you are that your view is incorrect. So we would need to do something to come to agreement on the topic.

people die from covid

Honestly neither I nor you can prove this to be the case, but I doubt it, or doubt that it was significant. And here’s why:

scientificamerican.com/…/flu-has-disappeared-worl…

During “covid”, flu literally disappeared. Using Occam’s Razor, it seems much more easy to conclude that flu cases were misdiagnosed as “covid” cases. Add in the hysteria and fear and stress of conditions, that gives you the extra deaths (which I am not disputing, but am disputing the cause - at least it is open to debate).

there were no mask mandates

There most certainly have been, at certain government facilities for example: reuters.com/…/us-homeland-security-department-imp…

Private businesses should also be criticized for their wrong and overzealous decision to require masks in our view.

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- Anticorp@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  You’re drawing the wrong conclusions from the article you linked. If you actually read it, you will see that they’re stating because masks are so effective at stopping the spread of airborne viruses, they also prevented most cases of the flu. Masks combined with the fact that there were less people going out overall led to a dramatic reduction in the number of flu cases. If you take anything away from that article, it should be that you should wear a mask when you have the flu or a cold too, just out of consideration for your fellow human beings.
  
  Private businesses should be criticized for requiring basic safety measures during a global pandemic that have been widely proven to be effective for over a hundred years? Get off it, mate. All you’re basically saying is that you either wildly misinterpret data, you’ve been conned by people with a political agenda, you don’t care about other people at all, or any combination of those things.
  
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  - airrow@hilariouschaos.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Masks combined with the fact that there were less people going out overall led to a dramatic reduction in the number of flu cases
    
    Is there any way to isolate these variables? Because I’d definitely agree not going out would probably drop flu or any disease cases. So we’d probably just argue that was what caused it rather than masking (if such a thing happened). Actually this is a point we could possibly agree on, that I’d just advocate for people being “remote” and quarantining. Skip the “danger” of going out with (in our view questionable) masks altogether?
    
    over a hundred years
    
    There was an anti-mask league during the Spanish flu: history.com/…/1918-spanish-flu-mask-wearing-resis…
    
    Also it’s obviously not proven to be useful like it’s common sense or something. Because if it was, people could just adopt the measure without being forced to. Many safety measures are adopted voluntarily. The fact that they tried to mandate the masking was something of an admission their “science” was not proven or thought out much. They were really just trying to make people “feel safe”, but weren’t actually accomplishing that. If we had real problems they could have just advocated for stronger quarantining.
    
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    Anticorp@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    it’s obviously not proven to be useful like it’s common sense or something. Because if it was, people could just adopt the measure without being forced to.
    
    Common sense doesn’t appear to be all that common. There’s no nefarious conspiracy to get you to wear a mask over your face. Its effectiveness has been documented and heavily researched. If you don’t understand the technical documentation outlining the results of those tests then you can and should just defer to the opinions of the experts. People dedicate their entire lives to this sort of stuff. It’s incredibly foolish to come along and think that with a few YouTube videos and some googling that you’re going to arrive at an accurate conclusion that disproves the educated work of thousands of people. What motivation would doctors have to wear a mask during surgery, or when dealing with deadly diseases, if they didn’t provide some measure of protection? Are they all being duped by the big mask lobby? Do you realize how silly that sounds?
    
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