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ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

My stance is that Hexbear is a bunch of fascists spreading their ideology and Lemmy.ml is helping them doing it by banning dissenters. I believe that freedom of speech only works with parity, and giving fascists a one-way echo chamber with which to spread fascism, deny genocide, brigade, and otherwise act in bad faith should be entirely unacceptable. People should not be getting posts from Lemmy.ml on their feeds because this “curated” discussion is basically the memetic equivalent of an engineered virus, and it cannot be allowed to spread.

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hark@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
It’s very easy to label people fascists as a generic “bad people” label and claim they’re arguing in bad faith based on nothing but your feelings. I could just as easily call you a fascist for trying to decide what everyone else on this instance gets to see and that you’re arguing in bad faith wanting vengeance because you threw a tantrum on another instance and got spanked for it.

The most name-calling I see are from people like you who label anyone who disagrees with them a “fascist”, “shill”, “bot”, “tankie”, “wumao” or millions of other terms and I see so many posts getting downvoted for not following your desired narrative. We can see this happen in the posts right here.

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- ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  tankie:
  
  (politics, slang, derogatory, by extension) A supporter of authoritarian policies and actions by the Soviet Union, China, or other nominally socialist governments.
  
  fascism:
  
  Any right-wing, authoritarian, nationalist ideology characterized by centralized, totalitarian governance, strong regimentation of the economy and society, and repression of criticism or opposition.
  
  So yeah, Hexbear isn’t full of fascists, it’s full of tankies, which are just fascists with a socialist coat of paint. The fact that I’m doing this because I was actioned by a moderator acting as a tankie commissar doesn’t change the validity of my reasoning as to why being federated to Lemmy.ml is a problem.
  
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  - hark@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    and you think this entitles you to be commissar dictating what everyone on this instance gets to see or not see? If I call you fascist enough times, does that mean your posts can be blocked for everyone?
    
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    Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Thank you
    
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rottingleaf@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
It would be better if you could just ignore them.

In general this Lemmy architecture, presented as compromise, where instance admins have some power and defederation is a thing - I don’t like it. I understand it’s simpler to do, but socially it may just not be something that will work.

IMHO user identities should be cryptographic, so should be community identities, and moderation should be done the same way as certificate revocation, and providing storage and connectivity shouldn’t be connected to moderation or identities.

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