Comment on Lemmy.ml is acting as a proxy instance for Hexbear and should be defederated by any instances that defederate from Hexbear

• fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yes but surely you can understand that even votes from these poorly moderated instances are distorting the discourse elsewhere in the lemmyverse.

  Just because you can’t see it does not mean the problem is solved.

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  • matcha_addict@lemy.lol ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So we wanna defederate to steer votes in a certain way? Worrying so much about votes is such redditor behavior.

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    • fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I would challenge you to think about how votes can influence the culture of a community.

      You’re correct in that worrying about how many upvotes you can accumulate is very reddit.

      I’m not really talking about karma accumulation, but rather the way votes can influence visibility of comments. When done methodically, this promotes some ideas over others, and presents an illusion that “everyone else thinks so”. This is a very, very powerful way to influence a community.

      We are hard wired to absorb the opinions of those around us. Sure you can disagree with other group members, but even that is an acknowledgement that the alternative perspective you’re disagreeing with is a popular one.

      You could absolutely influence people’s opinions on lemmy just with a hacked instance that manipulated votes on comments by just a few dozen points.

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      • matcha_addict@lemy.lol ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You make valid points. Apologies for the Reddit accusation.

        But the one thing that comes to mind is that this kind of Communist, like in lemmy.ml, is not big enough to cause this sway.

        Sure, the instance is massive, but most users don’t hold those same beliefs. Most people go to it as the “default” instance. So I really don’t think they have the numbers to cause this issue.

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