… Did you just compare my family to Nazis? Jfc I’m not drunk enough for this.
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GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 6 months agoI’m sure not every single German during ww2 was a nazi. Your family might not actively support what’s happening but they are passively complicit and beneficiaries of what is happening by remaining in the country.
toasteecup@lemmy.world 6 months ago
GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
I compare them to germans who aren’t nazis living passively in nazi germany. If your family isn’t actively against what Israel is doing they are passively supporting it.
toasteecup@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’d recommend talking with someone else dude. I don’t care what opinion you have anymore, you already fucked up. Without even knowing how they are trying to fight you, you automatically assumed and compar d them to Nazis. We done here.
Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You act in bad-faith, you understand “Israel” to mean both Israelies and Israel but you can not conceive grouping Germans and Germany together? I ask what is difference?
Aleric@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I hate to break it to you, but the ongoing Palestinian genocide puts the Israelis on par with Nazis. Feel free to pretend otherwise, but they both were/are a group justifying killing another group based on their religion/ethnicity with the underlying true purpose of taking their land and possessions while consolidating political power.
SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Wtf dude
clubb@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’m not evennsure if they can just leave at this point
WarlockLawyer@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Why not? Most have access to citizenship from their original countries? Plus the extreme orthodox just threatened to all leave if they get included in the draft
xantoxis@lemmy.world 6 months ago
What? Most Israelis were born in Israel, just as you would find in any other nation on Earth.
WarlockLawyer@lemmy.world 6 months ago
70 percent were born in Israel. So thirty percent likely still have citizenship or could remain citizenship from their native land. The rest are mostly second or third generation so depending on ancestry many could claim citizenship by descent.
Pipoca@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The fathers of 44% of Israel were born in Israel. I doubt they have dual citizenship, just as most Americans don’t have dual citizenship to their grandparents and great grandparents countries of origin.
Also, most Mizrahim and Sephardim these days are living in Israel, similarly to how most Ashkenazim are in the US. Even if an Israeli somehow has e.g. Iraqi, Iranian or Yemeni citizenship, moving back probably isn’t a safe idea. Morocco is probably safer, though.
After the fall of the USSR, there was also a huge wave of Russian emigration to Israel. Given conscription for the war in Ukraine, moving back now might not be the best idea.