The study doesn’t compare their findings to any other platform, so we can’t really tell if those numbers are good or bad. They just state the absolute numbers, without really going into to much detail about their searching process. So no, you can’t draw the conclusion that the Fediverse has a CSAM problem, at least not from this study.
Comment on Child Safety on Federated Social Media
MyFairJulia@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Why would someone downvote this post? We have a problem and it’s in our best interest to fix that.
shrugal@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 11 months ago
Because it's another "WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN" hysteria bait post.
They found 112 images of cp in the whole Fediverse. That's a very small number. We're doing pretty good.
etrotta@kbin.social 11 months ago
It is not "in the whole fediverse", it is out of approximately 325,000 posts analyzed over a two day period.
And that is just for known images that matched the hash.Quoting the entire paragraph:
Out of approximately 325,000 posts analyzed over a two day period, we detected
112 instances of known CSAM, as well as 554 instances of content identified as
sexually explicit with highest confidence by Google SafeSearch in posts that also
matched hashtags or keywords commonly used by child exploitation communities.
We also found 713 uses of the top 20 CSAM-related hashtags on the Fediverse
on posts containing media, as well as 1,217 posts containing no media (the text
content of which primarily related to off-site CSAM trading or grooming of minors).
From post metadata, we observed the presence of emerging content categories
including Computer-Generated CSAM (CG-CSAM) as well as Self-Generated CSAM
(SG-CSAM).Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 11 months ago
How are the authors distinguishing between posts made by actual pedophiles and posts by law enforcement agencies known to be operating honeypots?
godless@latte.isnot.coffee 11 months ago
Because it's talking about a report without linking to any report. That's shouting into the void at best, clickbait at worst.
Sentinian@lemmy.one 11 months ago
I was able to click and access the report fine
fleabomber@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Given new commercial entrants into the Fediverse such as WordPress, Tumblr and Threads, we suggest collaboration among these parties to help bring the trust and safety benefits currently enjoyed by centralized platforms to the wider Fediverse ecosystem.
Because the solution sucks?
Rooki@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Because its literally nothing a normie would read through. And some thought lemmy had bad ui.
chaogomu@kbin.social 11 months ago
The report (if you can still find a working link) said that the vast majority of material that they found was drawn and animated, and hosted on one Mastodon instance out of Japan, where that shit is still legal.
Every time that little bit of truth comes up, someone reposts the broken link to the study, screaming about how it's the entire Fediverse riddled with child porn.
MyFairJulia@lemmy.world 11 months ago
So basically we had a bad apple that was probably already defederated by everyone else.
Kes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
Moreso an apple with controversial but not strictly CSAM material based in a country where it’s content is legal. Actually, not even an apple; Lemmy and the fediverse aren’t an entity. It’s an open standard for anyone to use; you don’t see the Modern Language Association being blamed for plagiarized essays written in MLA format, or the WHATWG being blamed because illegal sites are written in HTML, so it’s not a fair comparison to say that Lemmy/the fediverse are responsible for what people do with their open standard either
ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 11 months ago
It's Pawoo, Pixiv's (formerly) own instance, which is infamous for this kind of content, and those are still "just drawings" (unless some artists are using illegal real-life references).
dustyData@lemmy.world 11 months ago
They’re using Generative AI to create photo realistic renditions now, and causing everyone who finds out about it to have a moral crisis.
etrotta@kbin.social 11 months ago
Here's a link to the report: https://stacks.stanford.edu/file/druid:vb515nd6874/20230724-fediverse-csam-report.pdf
It is from 2023-07-24, so there's a considerable chance it is not the one you were thinking about?
chaogomu@kbin.social 11 months ago
Nope, seems to be the one. They lump the entire Fediverse together, even though most of the shit they found was in Japan.
The report notes 112 non-Japanese items found, which is a problem, but not a world shaking issue. There may be issues with federation and deletion orders, which is also an issue, but not a massive world shaking one.
Really, what the report seems to be about is the fact that moderation is hard. Bad actors will work around any moderation you put in place, so it's a constant game of whack-a-mole. The report doesn't understand this basic fact and pretends that no one is doing any moderation, and then they add in Japan.
dustyData@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I can’t seem to find the source for the report about it right now, but there’s literal child porn being posted to Instagram. We don’t see this kind of alarmist reports about it because it is not something new, foreign and flashy for the general public. All internet platforms are susceptible to this kind of misuse. The question is what moderation tools and strategies are in place to deal with that. Then there’s stuff like the on TOR where CSAM was used as a basis to discredit its use then it turned out that the biggest repository was an FBI honey pot operation.
Metal_Zealot@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s 4Chan’s “9000 Penises” all over again