What are they afraid that they're going to throw loaves of bread and first aid kits at Israeli soldiers? Knock it the fuck off
Comment on Zionists doing a rave to block aid trucks at Ker Shalom crossing while Palestinians are starving
DdCno1@kbin.social 7 months agoThese protests were started by families of hostages who are still in Gaza. They don't want any supplies into Gaza until all hostages are released, because they fear that most of the aid will be stolen by Hamas anyway and used to prolong the war.
Uranium3006@kbin.social 7 months ago
DdCno1@kbin.social 7 months ago
Hamas has consistently stolen aid meant for civilians:
Before you scoff at the source, there's video evidence included in the article that is impossible to deny.
It should be pretty obvious that food, medical supplies and fuel are needed by fighters as well and in much larger quantities per person.
This is a difficult problem to solve. Personally, I would still send supplies though, hoping that at least some of them reach civilians who need them, but I can understand the frustration of people who are personally affected by this war. This aid unfortunately does have a not just theoretical chance of prolonging the conflict, enabling the besieged terrorist organization to hold out for longer, which in turn means more suffering not just for hostages and Israelis who only just recently have seen a reduction in rocket attacks, but also for Palestinian civilians, who are caught between a rock (IDF) and a hard place (Hamas) for as long as the fighting continues.
Here's the moral conundrum: Let's say we could determine with near certainty that halting aid would shorten the war, even if it resulted in a temporary increase in human suffering due to increased shortages. If the total amount of human suffering would be lower as a result, due to the war being over sooner, would it be the right moral choice, even if people end up suffering more for a brief amount of time? Think of it as a variation of the trolley problem.
snooggums@kbin.social 7 months ago
This is a difficult problem to solve.
Starving the entire population, half of which are children is an inhumane solution. If it is too effective, it becomes the final solution.
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 7 months ago
DdCno1@kbin.social 7 months ago
Article from November 4. The one I linked is from December 17.
livus@kbin.social 7 months ago
@DdCno1 I wonder what they imagine the hostages are eating.
What is happening to the hostages when they are being bombed by that psychopath Netanyahu.
I knew a woman whose husband was held prisoner by the Axis during WWII Her response was to go every weekend to a POW camp of "enemy" soldiers and bring them food, chocolate etc, since they were in the same situation as her husband.
DdCno1@kbin.social 7 months ago
Based on what surviving hostages have reported and going by the fact that medication meant for them never reached them, not much.
For as much of a bastard as Netanyahu is, you can't fight a modern war effectively without bombs (or else you get stagnation like in Ukraine, where air defenses on both sides make use of bombers difficult to impossible) and the hostages wouldn't be in danger of getting bombed in the first place if Hamas hadn't abducted them from their homes and started this war.
livus@kbin.social 7 months ago
@DdCno1 I would much rather stagnation than genocide.
At least 1.5% of the population of Gaza has been killed in under 5 months.
To put that into perspective, in the Bosnian Genocide 3% of Bosniaks were killed in a process which took over 2 years.
DdCno1@kbin.social 7 months ago
Intent matters. The actual death toll (which we don't actually have for Gaza - we only have Hamas reporting figures, which includes obvious lies like that hospital parking lot incident that I'm sure you remember) is actually irrelevant in assessing whether or not something is a genocide. Think about this for a second: Would an army hell-bent on committing genocide roof-knock, drop leaflets, send warnigns by telephone, messenger, social media and hacked TV stations? Why bother, why give warning to an enemy (any time you warn civilians, Hamas fighters will also be able to flee or hide) if the actual goal, like you are claiming, is eradication?
Before you're saying that this is just a smoke screen: The Israeli government clearly doesn't care about outside appearances, as they have stated multiple times, and would bring this war to its conclusion no matter what the world is saying, as they have also stated multiple times.
mathemachristian@lemm.ee 7 months ago
How the fuck is hamas prolonging the genocide, fuck outta here