Yes. Its basically AOSP (android Open Source Project) with just enough stuff to make the device useable and you have to add everything else on top of it. A lot of custom ROMs use LineageOS as their base and build from that point.
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v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 2 months agoFor the uninitiated, what’s Lineage OS? Is that like a FOSS alternative OS?
shortwavesurfer@monero.town 2 months ago
Hyperreality@kbin.social 2 months ago
Unfortunately it's a no go if you're using banking or government apps.
Not how it should be, but how it is.
shortwavesurfer@monero.town 2 months ago
I think it depends a lot on the app itself. My banking app works perfectly fine, on it with no Google Play services, but I have seen apps that completely will not open at all, except to give an error message, so I know what you mean. That is not specifically a lineage problem as much as its a google play services problem. Yoi can install gapps and those apps will work, but IMO that defeats the point.
ayaya@lemdro.id 2 months ago
It doesn’t necessarily defeat the point if the only reason you are using Lineage is for OS updates and not for privacy reasons. That was my original reason for using it before de-googling.
I don’t have google play services anymore but I do still use microG just for Revanced because I am a psychopath that actually likes YouTube recommendations.
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 2 months ago
And using a browser will always work.
Pantherina@feddit.de 2 months ago
LineageOS is a project making AOSP (Android Open Source Project) usable. This means bundling it together, combining it with the right drivers and kernel for specific phones.
LineageOS is not security focused and often less secure than stock Android. It has no Google Apps by default, which means a lot of proprietary Apps that rely on the backends will not work, at all.
There is the option to install “NIK Gapps” or other names, which is just a bundle of all Google Apps, installed as System apps, just as horrible as stock Android is.
There also is microG, which is also a system app and is not Opensource, as it downloads official Google Binaries.
Every System app can read critical device identifiers that you cannot change, and can access all files, as it doesnt need permissions.
LineageOS is a usable Android, often more up to date than what came with the device, but those Devices never have full support for Custom ROMS, like relockable Bootloader or full security features. So in the end you have more updates but partly less security, more privacy or none.
Also the Updates that LineageOS can even supply are very minor. Android devices use the Linux kernel but a special version tailored to that SOC (System on a chip). They would need to make a custom Kernel just for that phone, often newer, as manifacturers of those cheap phones have nonexistent Update lifespans.
They dont do that as its a lot of (unpaid) work.
Then there is firmware which is only delivered by manifacturers and signed with their private keys. No custom OS can do that and firmware security holes are very important and a lot.
So LineageOS is a really nice project if you donate to them but still save money. Abusing their hard work to buy cheap devices and get their longer OS support for free is not cool.
And in the end it is incomplete, insecure and nothing to build upon when buying a new device.
conciselyverbose@kbin.social 2 months ago
This is literally a core
Pantherina@feddit.de 2 months ago
No but I meant buying devices of shitty manufacturers and get an OS for free
conciselyverbose@kbin.social 2 months ago
That's not abuse.
If the developers choose to support that hardware, they have a reason. In either case, there is no way to use open source software that's abusive, with the exception of stuff like Amazon taking an open source project, modifying it without distribution so they're not obligated to share their changes, and selling the product as a service (at a scale that makes it extremely difficult for the authors to compete). That's against the spirit of open source even if it wasn't foreseen when licenses were written and is hard to legislate.
Using open source software to save money isn't.
ihavenopeopleskills@kbin.social 2 months ago
Not saying we shouldn't donate to worthy causes, but if we're going to call using free software without paying abuse, then there are many technology users to round up.