Comment on San Francisco Appoints First Noncitizen to Serve on Elections Commission | KQED

Alteon@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Kaboom@reddthat.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You do realize that its not a good thing that non-citizens vote, right?

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  • Theprogressivist@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If they pay taxes why can’t they vote?

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  • Lookin4GoodArgs@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Noncitizens aren’t totally barred from voting in San Francisco. In 2016, after multiple attempts in previous years to pass a similar measure, voters approved Proposition N, which allowed San Francisco noncitizens to vote in school board elections if they had a child who went to school in the district.

    What’s wrong with voting in school board elections?

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    • wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I actually don’t have a problem with tax payers voting for local things even if they are not citizens. They are paying taxes.

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      • WarmSoda@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Not sure why you’re down voted for this. It’s a good opinion to have, and it’s what everyone agrees on from what I can tell.

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  • ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why?

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• MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  which is a completely legal thing to do.

  Which is the entire fucking problem.

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  • Alteon@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    A lot of these people are legal residents, pay taxes, and are just as interested as you or I in our schools, environment, and public safety. Many of these local laws and policies affect them directly. By allowing them the ability to vote in local, non-federal elections, it gives them a voice and helps to prevent discriminatory and xenophobic policies that can directly affect these people.

    It’s also interesting to note that a lot of these people would love to become full citizens, but its a massive time and monetary investment that many of them can’t always afford to go through. So why treat them as sub-human? Why view their ability to have a voice as being “the entire problem”? What is it do you think they are able to do that is so bad by voting in these local elections?

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    • wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I feel the same way. Small local elections I’m fine with. School boards, sales tax, etc. things they pay for with their tax money I’m fine with.

      Senators, governors, etc should be citizens only.

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      • Alteon@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s the way it already is. As far as I’m aware, there are no states that permit non-citizens to vote for State House, State Senate, State attorney, Governor, or any federal position (House, Senate, or President).

        So it’s really weird to see people freaking out about it (you should check out the news site comments section - apparently she’s evil incarnate, the root of all of our problems, and here to destroy everything that we hold sanctimonious in our country.

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